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Michael4 03-06-2020 04:42 PM

Growth Hormone Deficient
 
My growth hormone stim test results came back today, and I am deficient!

My initial hypothesis of testosterone was wrong, and my claim that it reduced my head sensitivity was also wrong. What most likely was occurring was the extra testosterone blunted the symptoms of the concussions.

I highly suggest all of you to look into a growth hormone stim test, as this could be the underlying cause of your PCS.

Symptoms I had:
-Intense depersonalization/derealization
-Brain fog
-Memory problems
-Depression
-Cold and heat sensitivity
-Intense thirst and frequent urination after consuming high-sugar foods
-Head sensitivity to concussions
-Dry skin
-Carpal tunnel and joint problems from playing piano
-Blurry vision
-Sleep difficulty. Sleeping more worsened my cognitive skills while sleeping less improved them.
-Fatigue
-Lack of motivation

Forum members Esthersdoll, Todayistomorrow, and Patriotic American have more experience with growth hormone treatment.

caroline2 03-06-2020 07:12 PM

I had no tests done but have done a LOT of research on Human Growth Hormone and and have been using a Homeopathic HGH gel for 13 months now. I'm 81, and daughter is using it about 16 months. Our growth hormone starts dropping at about 30 yrs old. We both have appreciated many changes in so much of our lives. She's 56.

I have quite a few HGH posts all over NeuroTalk. Check them out. And love the fact we use a homeopathic and for sure NO SIDE EFFECTS..

Michael4 03-06-2020 09:53 PM

Also, IGF-1 is not a reliable predictor of growth hormone deficiency, especially in TBI cases. My level was 292 ng/mL, and the deficient level is <209. Additionally, I solely had mild concussions without losing consciousness.

You either need a glucagon stim test or an insulin tolerance test to accurately get diagnosed.

For me, it was extremely hard to get an endocrinologist to perform the test on me. You should find and endo that has experience in TBI and hormones.

I believe hormone replacement therapy will eradicate my head sensitivity as the onset of my other symptoms coincides exactly with the head sensitivity. I will post updates on this in the future.

Utility of serum IGF-1 for diagnosis of growth hormone deficiency following traumatic brain injury and sport-related concussion
Post-Traumatic Hypopituitarism—Who Should Be Screened, When, and How?

JBuckl 03-09-2020 10:23 AM

What does the course of increasing the levels look like?

Supplements? Foods? Prescriptions? Exercise?

Thanks,
-J

caroline2 03-09-2020 01:28 PM

My growth levels are increasing due to my using a homeopathic HGH gel for 13 months now and I'm 81. Daughter is 56 and she's using it over 16 months.

Sleep is #1 Major Improvement EVERYONE using the gel reports.

I take 1/2 thyroid support now.

I take 1/2 pain med dose now.

I still have no wrinkles at my age...face is smooth.

Just overall boost in Well Being is what we all experience.

Daughter's long time anemia has reversed, Docs are stunned.

JBuckl -- The product we use is rubbed into thin areas designated inn our skin...

I think this is what you are asking--- what form raises HGH.

Sleep does too and so many don't get quality sleep. c

kiwi33 03-09-2020 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caroline2 (Post 1284415)
My growth [hormone?] levels are increasing due to my using a homeopathic HGH gel for 13 months now and I'm 81.

What were your measured HGH levels before and after the homeopathic treatment?

caroline2 03-09-2020 02:42 PM

On how to increase growth hormone, others mention aggressive cardio workouts, I never did aggressive workouts and no way at this time in my life. Too much aggression can damage us more.

caroline2 03-09-2020 02:45 PM

Kiwi, no testing. Aging and damage says it all. And what we are feeling and 1000's of others using the gel is enough testimonial for me/us. Proof is in the pudding so to speak. How we feel is #1. Sleeping big #1.

caroline2 03-09-2020 03:02 PM

I think of thoughts to add here and have to re-post as I can't edit my posts. The HGH we are using is a microdosing and homeopathic so no fear of any side effects. No one will understand it all unless they are in it. And grasp homeopathy as well.

Chemar 03-09-2020 03:04 PM

Caroline do please note that people with specific illnesses or conditions may not be able to just take supplements that others who do not have their issues may be ok on.
It's really important to remind everyone of that.
Even "all natural" supplements or other nutritional products, and homeopathics, do not always have positive effects in everyone.
That is why there are always cautions to check for possible listed interactions with medications or even other supplements etc.

We understand the desire to be helpful, and that is to be commended, but when one does not have the illness or condition then caution in making recommendations is a good idea.

Michael4 03-09-2020 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBuckl (Post 1284412)
What does the course of increasing the levels look like?

Supplements? Foods? Prescriptions? Exercise?

Thanks,
-J

I will need daily injections of synthetic growth hormone for the rest of my life.

Carrico 03-12-2020 11:57 AM

Can you give us the name of the doctor who performed the test?

Michael4 03-14-2020 06:54 PM

I was tested by Dr. Arti Shah. Here is her profile Dr. Arti Pankaj Shah, MD - MedStar Health. Unfortunately, I had to fight to get the test, and she did not prescribe it until another doctor convinced her. She is also a pediatric endocrinologist. Dr. Michael Lewis was the doctor who convinced her, and he has knowledge in this area, but he cannot order the test himself.

Mark in Idaho 03-15-2020 12:51 AM

What about the HGH supporting supplements? SeroVital is supposed to increase HGH.

caroline2 03-15-2020 01:21 PM

I have a person on another group that took the ServoVital for I think 3 months and he stopped, said it did nothing for him. The HGH homeopathic gel we use is NOTHING like S.V. product. There are many types of HGH products out there. Something about the "gel" is and has been life changing for MOST who are using it, it's rubbed into the skin at specific points. I remind people that it costs us about $5/daily but in our lives worth it and what it does for us. I don't need a bunch of useless gadgets to spend my money on.

Mark in Idaho 03-15-2020 06:50 PM

Caroline,

Are you using Somaderm Gel ? $169 a month.......

Here is an interesting report on the company that makes Somaderm Gel

https://www.lexology.com/library/det...f-5a6fd2fd4f0c

Mark in Idaho 03-16-2020 03:04 PM

Somaderm Gel is a 30x homeopathic dilution.

The world's oceans contain 3.52x10^20 gallons. A 30x homeopathic dilution is like 0.000,000,000,3 gallons of active ingredient in the world's oceans.

In another form, if the active ingredient has the same molecular size as water, there would be 1 molecule in 12,200,000 gallons or 18 Olympic swimming pools of water.

Inconceivable........................

Research shows that the placebo effect can cause improvements in up to 60% of subjects. They find that the more the placebo remedy costs, the greater the placebo effect.

If the placebo was truly harmless and inexpensive, I think placebos can be very valuable. The human mind can be a great healer.

SomaDerm Gel has many adverse reactions reported.

Michael4 03-19-2020 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark in Idaho (Post 1284620)
What about the HGH supporting supplements? SeroVital is supposed to increase HGH.

I tried SeroVital but did not feel any different. Considering that my STIM test used L-arginine and L-DOPA, I only produced 0.1 μg/ dL compared to the >10 μg/dL cut off, and SeroVital or Secretropin use these two secretagogues, I would assume it cannot significantly influence a damaged pituitary.


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