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stevegee 11-02-2020 07:29 AM

ok to have eyes dilated at optomotrist?
 
I have pretty bad light sensitivity. Going to the optomotrist. Is it ok to have those eye dilation drops?

Want to make sure that will not make light sensitivity even worse.

davOD 11-02-2020 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by stevegee (Post 1290085)
I have pretty bad light sensitivity. Going to the optomotrist. Is it ok to have those eye dilation drops?

Want to make sure that will not make light sensitivity even worse.

Bring sunglasses, or ask them if they have those dark throw aways.

Atticus 11-03-2020 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by stevegee (Post 1290085)
I have pretty bad light sensitivity. Going to the optomotrist. Is it ok to have those eye dilation drops?

Want to make sure that will not make light sensitivity even worse.


Choose an optometrist with a wide field fundus camera, typically known in the UK as an Optomap. This instrument photographs 80% of your retina so that you don't need dilation. You will though experience a flash of light. It operates without the need for dilation and offers a far better view of the retina than traditional direct or indirect ophthalmoscopy.
You can always decline dilation anyway.

Mark in Idaho 11-03-2020 03:06 PM

stevegee,

Dilation will not be a problem. Take a wide brimmed hat and dark sunglasses or get the throw away glasses. I keep a pair of old people sunglasses with dark side lenses for such needs.

Light sensitivity is not a "Am I going to be damaging my brain?" issue. It is just uncomfortable for a few hours.

I am extremely photosensitive. Have been since 1970. I've been dilated more than 6 times this past year. NO BIG DEAL.

stevegee 11-04-2020 04:05 PM

Too soon to see optomotrist?
 
I have an appointment with optomotrist on Friday. As my vision is still "off" - does it make sense to have e yes checked and a new prescription measured now - or is that something that will change in time.

Should I wait on this?

Mark in Idaho 11-04-2020 06:15 PM

Get it done and stop worrying.

Visual acuity is not a concussion issue. Convergence is sometimes a concussion issue. The optometrist will not usually go a comprehensive exam for convergence.

Have you been assessed by any professional who can help you with your anxiety? There are ways to treat it without benzos.

Atticus 11-05-2020 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by stevegee (Post 1290134)
I have an appointment with optomotrist on Friday. As my vision is still "off" - does it make sense to have e yes checked and a new prescription measured now - or is that something that will change in time.

Should I wait on this?

The power of your eyes will not be affected by concussion and will not cause a temporary fluctuation of your spectacle prescription.

stevegee 11-13-2020 03:15 PM

Went to optomotrist. Bad idea
 
Went to optometrist this morning. Bad idea.

I declined dilation and she went on a rant about "retinal detachment" and would not let it go. My anxiety is bad enough without having to hear that phrase repeated over and over.

I left there without finishing my exam.

Mark in Idaho 11-14-2020 12:38 AM

As I have said, your biggest challenge is your anxiety. You need to get control of your anxiety. Benzos are just a bandaid that sedates your mind. You need help to find a workable solution for you.

There is no reason to not have your eyes dilated. It is very difficult to examine the retina without dilation. The confidence of knowing your retinas are healthy is worth far more than the temporary sensitivity to light. Wear dark glasses or get an appointment after the sun sets. Artificial light is substantially less than sunlight. Sunglasses after sunset will completely resolve any light sensitivity.

Atticus 11-14-2020 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by stevegee (Post 1290358)
Went to optometrist this morning. Bad idea.

I declined dilation and she went on a rant about "retinal detachment" and would not let it go. My anxiety is bad enough without having to hear that phrase repeated over and over.

I left there without finishing my exam.

I said earlier in the thread that you can decline dilation if you want to. However I did at no time suggest declining the whole sight test. The incidence in the UK of a new patient presenting with a retinal detachment is 5 per 100,000 or 0.0005%. Now in that cohort the incidence of someone presenting with a retinal detachment without symptoms is even less. Generally if you have a retinal detachment you know about it and thats what prompts you to go to the optometrist in the first place. So your chances of having a retinal detachment are prettty much zero.

You don't give a location, but lets say you live in the USA. Its a highly litigious country. The legal system casts a long shadow over medical practice there. So that affects the way an optometrist will act at all times. The fear of career ending Medical Negligence lawsuit will be in the practitioners thoughts. Therefore the advice that optometrist will make will err on the side of caution. The bill for missed pathology will be a lot less in a dilated eye than undilated eye. Hence her or his referencing retinal detachment as a means of persausion. In the UK dilation is not routine and modern technology renders it obsolete in the vast majority of cases.

I have two quotes from Mark in Idaho. The first I disagree with.

"There is no reason to not have your eyes dilated. It is very difficult to examine the retina without dilation."

Its actually very easy to view the retina with modern equipment unless the patient has constricted or miotic pupils and/or cataract for example. Then dilation may be indicated. Earlier in the thread I referenced Optomap Eye testing, wide field fundus cameras. Here is a link to a random American Optometrist.

Optomap, The Undilated Retinal Exam - Total Eye Care

Even with constricted pupils and cataract this instrument renders dilation a thing of the past. If your optometrist is only offering old fashioned dilation it means that she/ he has underinvested in equipment. All you need to do is find an optometrist in your area with this instrument and your problem is solved.

Except it isn't. This is a quote from Mark I agree with

"As I have said, your biggest challenge is your anxiety. You need to get control of your anxiety."

I can't help you with that. However you may want to Google the work of neuroscientist Andrew Huberman. This man is a genius. He offers simple breathing and mind and nervous system calming techniques. In fact I would be very interested to hear how you get on with them should you try them.

How to Counter Anxiety + Sleep Like a Baby with Andrew Huberman — Kelly LeVeque

I wish you well.


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