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Chemar 09-28-2007 05:43 PM

ok,let's talk about the moon.........
 
yup!
lunar stuff.

I have mentioned before that my son has always shown waxing of his TS tics as well as his OCD at and around full moon.

It was something I picked up on a while back but never mentioned to him, for concern over auto-suggestion, but my son is now almost 18 and he has noticed it clearly for himself.

So

what is it?
what about the cycle of the moon affects the earth so,
and, possibly humans too? I know scientists have learned probably all their is to know re the lunar effect on the tides and crops etc but...what about humans and animals


I've read theories on fluid in cells/organs/body being influenced as are the tides, and some of it does make some sense to me............but still, hmmm

my son is showing another waxing of some motor tics with this current full moon and him commenting how the Sept/Oct Fall time always being a bit more noticeable to him since he has been aware of this for himself. Harvest moons.

sooooooo
does anyone have any research? articles? personal or anecdotal experience of this tic, OCD or other neurological stuff waxing with the lunar cycle?

ives6797 09-29-2007 07:35 AM

Interesting, Chemar. Definitely something to look into.

mrsD 09-29-2007 04:31 PM

this right up MY alley....
 
I have always shared the thoughts of law enforcement, and ERs.. that the full moon is problematic.

My husband even found me a Widget at Yahoo that shows the phases of the moon right on your desktop: Free

http://widgets.yahoo.com/gallery/?se...olf&x=162&y=16

Now that I am not working...it is not so critical here, except to monitor ME! LOL

I can't say with experience for Tourette's, but I do believe that the moon affects mood, and behavior. Actually the day before the full and the day after as well, IMO.. I know for myself, I sleep less during the full phase!

I like the Widget... it is simple and elegant (and free). A quick look at a Farmer's almanac will also show you that in the past people used to plant and do other things according to the moon's phases. And of course the female menstrual cycle is the same length as the lunar phases, even if it does not directly coincide with them.

FeelinGoofy 10-25-2007 02:18 PM

I've noticed Scotts tics and his vocalizations especially have escalated the past couple weeks. I wrote it off as him being excited about being in the play at school, but now i'm going to have to see what happens next full moon.

Chemar 10-25-2007 03:46 PM

we are in moon wax tics up mode here right now too Vicky. Honestly if it werent for the vitamin/mineral shake he takes plus the extra magnesium from the magnesium citrate he drinks and the epsom salts tubs I think it would be bad for him now. he has a lot of head tics happening, those shaking etc ones and so getting his neck vertebrae out too:( thank goodness there for an excellent NUCCA trained chiropractor

lynnie1264 07-31-2008 07:07 AM

Moon moods
 
Wow!!! I was reading this and it sort of rug a bell so I did a search on our full moons this year... and I can honestly say that these dates coincide with my son waxing tics. He has TS mild anyway {well... mostly} but once a month it intensifies but just for a day or two. The full moon in April coincides with when I really noticed something was wrong, it was during his 2nd soccer game for this season, that's how I remember the date. Also on the 18th July this yr {I see now it was full moon here} my son had pretty bad facial tics on the Fri {17th} and the Satuday... then went back to the usual mild ones about 5pm Saturday arvo.

Could there really be something in this? I know each day changes anyway but the only time he gets worse is around the full moon. ... now all we have to do is find a way of having an eclipse... I actually read on the Australian website that we're having a lunar eclipse on Aug 17th.
Sorry for this ramble, but hey... I find this interesting.

Chemar 07-31-2008 10:00 AM

hi Lynee

yup the correlation is clear to us. we have kept a log for long enough now to be sure of it

Luna in latin = moon and the words "lunatic" and "lunacy" derive from early folklore that people with mental illness cycled with the moon.

now that we are beginning to understand more about neurological illness these terms may well have a more relevant meaning rather than the slur they have come to portray.

brandtryan 08-22-2008 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chemar (Post 336063)
hi Lynee

yup the correlation is clear to us. we have kept a log for long enough now to be sure of it

Luna in latin = moon and the words "lunatic" and "lunacy" derive from early folklore that people with mental illness cycled with the moon.

now that we are beginning to understand more about neurological illness these terms may well have a more relevant meaning rather than the slur they have come to portray.

Nice informative post! Very interesting. I wonder if "Looney" also has its roots in the Latin "Luna".

who moi 10-01-2008 05:56 AM

I've done my journal....

YES to the lunar cycle!!!

I think that makes me a certified lunatic

ummmmmmm....can I call myself lunatwitch? LOL

just don't call me a lunatwit... :thud:

(uh oh, I can see curious jumping all over this one...:rolleyes:)

Chemar 10-01-2008 01:08 PM

Harvest Moon is always one of the hardest times for my son. He ensures that during month of october he is especially diligent about his supplements and keeping diet/environment as free of potential tic triggers as possible

interesting informal survey results of tic triggers

http://www.latitudes.org/articles/finding_triggers.htm

Quote:

A preliminary list of the triggers reported to ACN

Most Common (in alphabetical order):

Alcohol
Artificial colors and flavors
Cleaning chemicals
Caffeine
Chocolate
Dairy
Dust
Excitement
Infections (bacterial/viral)
Molds
Perfumes/scented products
Pollens
Preservatives/MSG
Stimulant medication
Stress
Sweets/sodas/cane sugar

Reported, but less frequently (and not necessarily less troublesome)

Artificial sweeteners
Carpeting (new)
Carpeting (removal)
Cell phone use
Chicken pox
Chlorine
Clothing/fabric sensation on skin
Corn
Dental related causes (spacers, losing teeth)
Dry cleaning odors
Fabric softener
Feeling Hungry
Foods—numerous; most common ones listed
Formaldehyde
Fumes from fuel
Heat (temperature increase)
Hepatitis B Vaccine
Lawn treatment
Light (flashing, bright, or fluorescent)
Medications (antihistamines, decongestants)
Nitrates/processed meats
Noise
Orange juice
Paint and thinners
Pesticides
Smoke
Television
Wheat
Yeasty foods
Video games


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