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bizi 12-10-2007 12:22 AM

Fish Oils...do you take them?
 
Fish oils contain omega 3 fatty acids that we need 1000gm is the reccommend dosed three times a day...I only take 1000mg at night.
each pill contains EPA-180mg and DHA-120mg.

Do you take these and what dose are you taking?
my friend was asked to try to take 9000mg thru out the day to help her depression, her moods.
That sounds like a lot...but don't know....
will try to research on this.
Let me know what you have heard or learned.
thank in advance.
bizi

Mari 12-10-2007 12:49 AM

Hi,
I was taking fish oil pills until about two months ago when I gave up on my vits and supplements -- too much trouble. Maybe I'll go back to them. I did not notice improvement necessarily but I think they can't hurt. They are probably good for things other than mood too -- like smooth skin. . . .

I eat very little fish -- another good reason to take the pills.

Dr. Phelps has lots of good info and many links on his page. He mentions that we have more studies on EPA than on DHA and considers that we might need about a gram a day of EPA.

http://www.psycheducation.org/depres...ds/Omega-3.htm


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Update 2006: Now six years after the Stoll study I'm still talking about fish oil with my patients but still not very convinced it has great value as a mood stabilizer. However, as an add-on tool for depression, I think that's where it may indeed be useful.

I've probably not been using large enough doses. The dose in the new Frangou study, 2006, is the equivalent in EPA of seven pills of the type I've been recommending -- because it's the cheapest, with no greater risk -- where I've generally had people taking 4 pills per day.

I'll definitely be trying a higher dose when I talk with patients now, and looking for a cheap route to 1 gram of EPA
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Conclusions (reviewed as of 3/2006; still seem to hold):

--the evidence is piling up that omega-3 fatty acids do something, at least in some people;

--the dose to use is not at all clear, as some studies suggest you can go too high and lose benefits (Nevets, Sagduyu), whereas many of the individual glowing results come with the higher doses;

--even at higher doses, the risks seem minimal, and there may actually be additional benefits (on cholesterol, perhaps arthritis);

--however, it's a large number of pills, though a minimal-moderate expense;

--fish burps can be managed easily

--it's not clear how long you have to wait to see benefits, but especially with the smaller doses they may take 1-2 months to show up, so if you take them, prepare yourself for a period of taking a lot of pills with no benefits.


Do I recommend them to my patients? Yes, rather commonly, especially when we're looking for all possible anti-depression tools to use, rather than have to use a typical antidepressant.

I still have yet to see a clear-cut stunning improvement like those case reports in the table above, but because the risk appears to be so minimal, in many cases it seems like it's worth a try.

bizi 12-10-2007 01:25 AM

I found a site that offers Omega 3 mood fish oils that you take 1 pill twice a day for a 1 gram of epa.
www.countrylifevitamins.com ....on the left column type in the product name(omega 3 mood)
then enter in your zip code to see where they sell it close to you.
I have 5 stores to choose from close to my home.
I think I will double my fish oils until I get this new brand.
bizi

mrsD 12-10-2007 10:17 AM

try this for savings...
 
http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails....&pid=1699&at=0

I found it consistently less expensive online.

It is similar to OmegaBrite (which is the brand used in the studies).

It is nice to see an interest here. We've been using EFAs for 10 yrs now.

However, if you are looking for antidepressant actions specifically, I think more DHA is
useful. The high ratio of EPA: DHA was done for bipolar.

This article reinforces EPA for mania:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...ubmed_RVDocSum

This article is interesting too:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...ractPlusDrugs2

shiney sue 12-10-2007 11:04 AM

hmmm this is interesting, and i'm learning something new...I have been taking fish oil for cholesterol,but had not heard it was good for depression.
But with all the med. changes I just may have forgotten. Ha must look at
paperwork. Once again thanks also for the posts on the oils.. Hugs to all
Sue

fiberowendy2000 12-10-2007 01:42 PM

I ran out recently and haven't been able to get more. I hate going to Wal-Mart right now so I am avoiding it. But I do use it and have found that without it makes a difference.


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