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AfterMyNap 04-17-2008 09:19 AM

Accupressure
 
My new massage therapist thinks she can stimulate my axons and help me move my dead legs. She's so convinced, she practically begged me to let her try. Anyone try this? I'm really curious about any changes in your MS condition following accupressure treatments.

janlici 04-17-2008 09:38 AM

Hi Cin....it's janet (jazz) from the other board you used to post on a long time ago. ;)

Anyway, I've had acupressure, acupuncture, etc, etc, etc. Acupressure always helped me when I had a bad headache, but no one has ever used it to help my lousy legs.

Do I think it will change things ultimately? Not really. :( BUT, I don't think it will hurt to try! :)

lady_express_44 04-17-2008 09:41 AM

What's involved in acupressure, Cindy? Is it needles, or deep massages, or ? Where do they "apply" the treatment?

Cherie

greta 04-17-2008 09:53 AM

Can't help you with acupressure C, but it is possible to train your brain to use other neural pathways. My mom's neuro talks about focusing on the part you want to move and "talking to it" (this neuro is a hoot!). In PT, I'd work with a woman with dead legs (she had MS) as well as very weak trunk strength. We focused on rolling over If I'd initiate the motion, she could often pick it up once it had been started. By the end of the therapy that day, she could do it herself. Initiating the movement (with your own hands to move the leg) if necessary and then focusing on it/talking to it:p to finish the movement without assistance really does help to retrain the neural pathways around damaged areas. Won't be perfectly good as new, but it will make things easier.

AfterMyNap 04-17-2008 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by janlici (Post 260329)
Hi Cin....it's janet (jazz) from the other board you used to post on a long time ago. ;)

Anyway, I've had acupressure, acupuncture, etc, etc, etc. Acupressure always helped me when I had a bad headache, but no one has ever used it to help my lousy legs.

Do I think it will change things ultimately? Not really. :( BUT, I don't think it will hurt to try! :)

Yes, Jan, I recognized your smile immediately. ;) I feel the same way but I'm curious if anyone has ever actually noticed results. The poor girl knows nothing about MS and has some pie-in-the-sky healing ideas.:p

I might just go for some bee stings.:D

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Originally Posted by lady_express_44 (Post 260336)
What's involved in acupressure, Cindy? Is it needles, or deep massages, or ? Where do they "apply" the treatment?

Cherie

It's based on the points of acupuncture but uses pointed pressure rather than the traditional needles. This gal is a fantastic massage therapist and a big believer in the whole "healing arts/holistic" theme. I'll let her do it for fun and see if I can't get a little placebo effect if nothing else.

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Originally Posted by greta (Post 260345)
Can't help you with acupressure C, but it is possible to train your brain to use other neural pathways. My mom's neuro talks about focusing on the part you want to move and "talking to it" (this neuro is a hoot!). In PT, I'd work with a woman with dead legs (she had MS) as well as very weak trunk strength. We focused on rolling over If I'd initiate the motion, she could often pick it up once it had been started. By the end of the therapy that day, she could do it herself. Initiating the movement (with your own hands to move the leg) if necessary and then focusing on it/talking to it:p to finish the movement without assistance really does help to retrain the neural pathways around damaged areas. Won't be perfectly good as new, but it will make things easier.

I'm absolutely convinced of it, Gretata, I have taught myself to do so many things just out of necessity, it's phenomenal what our minds are capable of doing when we enlist them. I haven't figured out a way to do vertical leg lifting and often resort to the nylon leg lifter.

SallyC 04-17-2008 11:31 AM

Ahhhh, accupressure as opposed to accupuncture. I get it. :rolleyes: ...Is this anything like Raque(sp)?

Let us know how it works for you, Cindy..:)

Hi Ya JAZZ!!!!

greta 04-17-2008 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AfterMyNap (Post 260363)

I'm absolutely convinced of it, Gretata, I have taught myself to do so many things just out of necessity, it's phenomenal what our minds are capable of doing when we enlist them. I haven't figured out a way to do vertical leg lifting and often resort to the nylon leg lifter.

use the leg lifter to start, but then concentrate on completing the movement without it. You might suck at it at first and think you're not making any progress, but the more you do it, the better you will be able to do it. I can even improve my mom when I work with her and she's got complete and total dead legs. Unfortunately she won't keep up the work when I'm not there.:mad:

janlici 04-17-2008 12:18 PM

I was the office administrator for an outpatient PT practice for 9 years, and by the end of my working life I was getting terrible headaches (from the MS? Nah...probably stress!)

One of the therapists would come by and do a little search at the bottom of my neck/shoulder area and when he found what he was looking for he'd press. OUCH! I'd get a shooting pain up into my head, but I swear to you my headache was gone within 15 minutes!

I always humor those kind of people, Cin, because really...what do I know? Maybe what they want to do will work AND it's not going to cause any harm like a drug or something similar. (you'd think I wouldn't care about such things being disabled and all...but I do!)

Let me know if it works! I still know alot of PTs from my working days (and they'll find me a good massage therapist). :)

(P.S. Hi, Sally! Good to see you!)

tkrik 04-17-2008 12:38 PM

I have not had accupressure, however, before I was diagnosed and having terrible pain (turns out to be the hug) I did go to an accupuncturist/MD. It worked as far as relieving the pain. Well, maybe it was just lots of good endorphins as I left there on a "high." They say that happens with accupuncture.

My sister sent me this great article on an MS care center in CT. They purchased a Lokomat to help MS patients with their gait. I don't know if there is a facility near you that has one but if it helps it would be worth checking in to.

Here is the manufacturers website: http://www.hocoma.ch/web/en/header/index.html

Let us know if the accupressure works.

weegot5kiz 04-17-2008 04:47 PM

if I remember correctly acupressure deals with applying a slight pressure to hot spots on the nerves, or pressure points. read about it yrs ago and have tried it off and on over the years

I have used this for years for my legs do to my back now I am trying it with this spascity, which isn't working so well, but have tried it in the past, and certain spots supposedly control certain areas of the body ear lobes and palm of hand for headaches, sometimes it works for me, sometimes it doesn't, but I can apply it to myself and that helps, just have to find those certain spots to apply the pressure to

found this if you go to bottom of page it had some info on a number of situations,http://www.geocities.com/jrh_iii/acupressure/

http://www.geocities.com/jrh_iii/acupressure/

if i messed up link theres the address too


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