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Riverwild 06-23-2008 11:19 PM

Brisket recipes?
 
I got hooked on slow roasted brisket while down in Texas and have tried to replicate the rub and cooking of said brisket many MANY times.

I want to cook it on the gas grille. I know it has to be slowcooked ( Low and Slow) to come out all tender and melt in your mouth so it pulls apart, but do I do it in foil or open on the grille?

I want to do a dry rub and have tried a bunch of different spices and come up with a recipe that I like that includes Cumin and Cayenne and garlic and onion powder and cracked pepper all ground together. Do I add salt to that or wait and salt after?

Any brisket roasters out there, come out and helllllp meeee!:D

Twinkletoes 06-23-2008 11:33 PM

Yum!
 
RW, I stole, er uh, "borrowed" this from RecipeZaar.com (I haven't personally tried it though).

New Year's Eve Oven Roasted Beef Brisket

SERVES 6 -8

Ingredients
6 lbs beef brisket
1/2 lb carrot (cut into small pieces)
3 stalks celery (cut into small pieces)
3 medium onions, peeled and chunked
3 garlic cloves
1 (28 ounce) can diced tomatoes
1 cup beef broth
1/3 cup brown sugar

Directions
1. In a large bowl combine tomatoes, beef broth, and brown sugar. stir till mixed well.

2. pour over top of the brisket and vegies and bake in the oven for 6 hours at 225 f.

3. you can use any type of roast or meat you want. it really does not matter even a tough type of meat will work fine after cooking for 6 hours it will come out fork tender.

4. call and invite twink over for dinner! :D

Koala77 06-23-2008 11:37 PM

If it's going on a grill, the briskett should be wrapped in foil RW, but never salt your meat before you cook it. If you salt meat before it's cooked, it can end up very tough. If necessary, salt it after it's cooked.

Happy cooking, and don't forget to mail me a taste! :D

Riverwild 06-23-2008 11:43 PM

Oooh! Thanks Twink! I forgot about the brown sugar! That's in the rub too! I am cooking this as more of an outside cookout type thing, so I don't want to put all the usual veggies in, but I did wonder if it would make it's own juice if I did it in foil. I may have to add some liquid, and a few fresh tomatoes squeezed in might be just the ticket!

Anne, I wasn't sure about the whole salt thing! I heard that it could make meat tough. I never salt anything until it's served. I figure anyone who wants salt can do their own, but this is a HUGE piece of meat and I want to make sure it's done RIGHT! Thanks!

Kitty 06-24-2008 05:23 AM

Let us know how it turns out! I'm interested in trying this.

I have a charcoal grill so I'm not sure this would work for me but I might try it in the crock pot.

soxmom 06-24-2008 07:27 AM

I dont know Riverwild. I always salt my meat before I cook it. In fact, I salt
and pepper it before I add the rub. I dont know if you watch pbs or foodtv,
but they all salt and pepper meat before you cook it. Doesnt matter if
its chicken, pork or beef. I think Id do some research on that.:)

I always cook brisket low and slow in the oven. Im not a big griller..
but please let us know how it turns out.:)

Bets 06-24-2008 02:50 PM

Here is my grandmothers recipe (she always brings a brisket in her carry on when visiting -we're wierd)

Texas Style Brisket

1 4-5 lb brisket
1/2 c oil
2T worcestershire sauce
1t salt
1 clove garlic pressed
juice of 1 lemon

Marinade in above mixture for 4 or 5 hours, turning once. Remove brisket to a 9 x 13 inch baking pan, cover with foil. Bake at 325 degrees just until tender (1 1/2 to 2 1/2 hours). prepare grill to high heat and add mesquite chips if desired. Put pan over hot coals or gas fire and reduce meat juice (if too moist) or add marinade (if too dry) depending on the meat. Finish cooking on grill to desired doneness.

You can cook the brisket on the grill entirely, but it does use up a ton of propane.

Curious 06-27-2008 06:15 PM

a good texas brisket is going to take hours and hours to cook in a grill. if you rush it, it's going to be tough.

you need to add salt to your rub. if you don't, you won't get a crust and your meat will be dry. imo...it's what we do here.

do you plan on serving it sliced or pulled?

<-----monkey from texas who has cooked many a brisket.

Riverwild 06-27-2008 06:21 PM

O-O-O-O-K!

We did a bunch of research, called folks in TX ( old river drivers! ) and talked amongst ourselves and we have decided!

We will soak it in marinade for 12 hours or so with a vinegar based marinade. Then we will wrap it in foil and roast it in the oven at 200 for 12 hours or so ( overnight) and then we will polish it off on the grille for 3-4 hours on low with more dry rub smeared on it. The fat cap will go on top, all silverskin will be removed before marinating and I EXPECT it to come out scrumptious!!

I will take pics of the beginning and end result! It's a HUGE brisket, so I want to be very careful to document every step in case I want to duplicate it again.

Kelly,

you CAN do it on charcoal, supposedly that is the best way to do it. The Texicans said get some fruitwood chips and keep tossing them in after soaking them in a bucket of water. They said chunks of fruitwood are better, but I reminded them that we are in MAINE and we don't cut down our precious fruit trees! It takes them too long to grow and bear fruit!! We have a new gas grille so it's propane for us now!

Bets,

The Texicans told me to make sure I put some worcestershire in the marinade! I agreed but the man is dead set against it! (it'll be in there:p)

I'll let y'all know how it goes! The cooking will take place July 3-4! Hopefully someone will show up to eat it!

Bets 06-27-2008 08:36 PM

Funny, I suddenly have a craving for brisket. I guess I know what I will be doing this week-end...booking a flight to grandmas for home cooking. No way will I attempt to make one. :o

Riverwild 06-28-2008 11:10 AM

Thanks Curious! I was hoping you'd chime in here!

The old river drivers said the same thing! They said it ain't brisket if there's no crust! That's why we will finish it on the grille. I figure the oven will do most of the work without having to be watched and the last few hours I will have a lawn chair and a cocktail or two while I monitor it! :p

I'm gonna be really upset if this 20 lb piece of meat doesn't come out like I remember the ones from TX! I just loved the way they did it and had the beans that cooked for hours on the side! I'm even gonna do a beanpot! :Starvin: :Dancing-Chilli::pepsi::sunchair:

Curious 06-28-2008 11:24 AM

i always cook mine in the oven, then let the grill or smoker to the crust. :p

the rub can be your favorite spices. don't mix herbs. they will burn.

use powders not salts. like garlic, onion, cerlery, paprika ( i like the smokey kind, cayanne and black pepper. the brown sugar varies too. i would go with the light. i don't use this until the grill rub. the dark can be a bit too sweet, but that also depends on the sauce. don't be afraid of the salt on the final rub. i don't use too much in the oven part.

the worchestershire sauce is a must. really...it's just a mixture of spices in a soy sauce base. :wink: but it adds the smokey flavor.

do not add any tomatoes when you cook this. it will turn out tasting like a roast. :eek:

are you making your own bbq sauce?

i wouldn't. it's pain. takes to long. but do get 2 different types. 1 a tomato based and another vinager based.

i am so glad you were doing a mustard cooked brisket. :vomit2:

Bets 07-07-2008 07:38 AM

So RW, did you make the brisket? How did it turn out?

Riverwild 07-07-2008 06:02 PM

We haven't made it yet!

We were planning it for the 4th, but plans were changed. Now it's planned for later this month when the family comes together for our annual vacation. We HAVE to have people to feed this to when we cook it!:D

Bearygood 07-12-2008 10:35 AM

Here's a recipe I've made twice and both times came out well. I didn't put it in the fridge overnight as suggested but I bet it's even more delish if you do! I also add potatoes along with the carrots. It's a recipe that lends itself to improvising a little.

2 tablespoons vegetable oil
1 (3 1/2 pound) brisket, with "fat cap" (do not trim)
3 tablespoons sweet (not hot) paprika
1 tablespoon kosher salt, plus for brisket
Freshly ground black pepper
6 medium yellow onions, cut into thin wedges with root end attached
1 1/2 cups sweet vermouth (I use whatever vermouth is in my liquor cabinet!)
4 cups chicken broth (use low sodium if desired)
8 medium carrots, peeled, and cut into thirds (14 ounces)
Preheat the oven to 375 degrees F

Heat the oil a large, heavy bottomed Dutch oven over medium-high heat until beginning to smoke. Season the brisket generously with the paprika, salt, and pepper. Place fat side down in the Dutch oven and cook until brown on all sides, about 8 to10 minutes. Transfer the meat to a plate and set aside.
Discard about half the fat, then add the onions and cook over medium heat until browned and tender, about 10 minutes.

Pour in the vermouth and cook until reduced by about half. Nestle the brisket into the onions fat side up, add the broth; bring to a simmer and bake, covered, until the brisket is fork tender, about 1 1/2 to 2 hours. Uncover, scatter the carrots around the brisket and cook until the carrots are tender, about 30 minutes more.

Transfer the brisket to a cutting board, cut the fat off the top and thinly slice the meat across the grain. Return the meat to the braising liquid and serve immediately or, cool to room temperature in the sauce, cover and refrigerate overnight. When ready to serve reheat in the sauce.

Riverwild 08-18-2008 04:18 PM

OK!

We cooked the brisket! WE split it in half, since we didn't have enough people to feed twenty pounds of meat to. :p

We did a dry rub with generous amounts of garlic powder, onion powder, celery seed, cumin, cayenne, paprika, fresh ground black pepper, kosher salt, light brown sugar, and drizzled a touch of worcestershire on it before rubbing it.

We started it in the oven at 200 degrees and let it cook for three hours, then cranked it up to 300 degrees for another two hours. We finished it on the grille on low with the cover closed, still in the foil, and took it out and crusted it on high for about thirty minutes.

It came out just like I remembered it! It was tender, had some juice left, we saved the juices from the foil and used them for moistening the crusty
rolls that we made sandwiches with. It was easily pulled apart or sliced thin across the grain.

We'll be eating the leftovers for a few days, but it isn't gonna go to waste! :p

Thanks everyone for all the suggestions and tips! I couldn't have done it without your input! :)

yeahbut 09-06-2008 04:39 PM

ok, I give what the heck is a Brisket?

Riverwild 09-10-2008 04:11 PM

LOL Yabbit!

A brisket is a cut of meat from the chest/underside of a cow!
It can range from just a few pounds to as much as 15-20 lbs.
We see them heah as corned beef briskets that we use in boiled dinnah.
Down in TX they have the "real thang" (as in huge cuts of beef that ain't "corned") that is very tough unless you slow cook it at lower temps.

I got hooked on it while doing the Rio Grande thing and I decided to revive it one day when I went into a "Soopah Wallyworld" and they actually had briskets that were NOT corned ( yes it was in Maine!) Hence the post on cooking brisket!

You reviving this thread has my mouth watering all over again!:p

yeahbut 09-21-2008 08:00 AM

thanks for clearing that up for me, now I know what it is.....


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