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reverett123 09-07-2006 09:39 PM

Poll on a very moving experience:-)
 
Constipation. Everybody has it but nobody wants to talk about it. Except there is this one guy who...oh, never mind:D

But enough of the introductory levity! And stop that self conscious snickering in the back row! This is a serious matter.

A simple question- If mild constipation is defined as less than seven but more than four bowel movements per week (i.e. once every one to two days) and moderate is defined as two to four per week (i.e. once every two to four days) and severe is defined as less than two per week (i.e. more than four days between), then...

Before the age of twenty-one would you rate yourself as having been: mild, moderate, severe, or none of the above (i.e. not constipated)?

I myself must choose moderate. What about yourself? Private replies are welcome.

Curious 09-07-2006 09:49 PM

before the age of 21....i'd say none. never had a problem. i don't have pd, so i called my dad just now and asked him.

same answer for before 21.

any reason as to why you ask if before 21? you realize that some folks...and i WILL NOT name names....that age 21 was more than a few years ago?

i think i constipated my dad just asking him to think back that far. :p

reverett123 09-07-2006 10:49 PM

OhhhKaaay.....
 
Let's start this over...

IF YOU HAVE PD.....!!!!!! etc etc

Sheesh....:D

The point of this downright nosey question is that if constipation is present in childhood for PWP, then there is the possibility of toxin absorption being a factor in its origin.

indigogo 09-07-2006 11:03 PM

oh poop!
 
I think curious' dad has PD ............

I, myself, have always been, and continue to be, a systematically regular pooper ("none of the above").

Speaking of poop, the new Barbie being advertised features a dog that poops along with "potty training" paraphernalia. I'm glad my daughter is long past the Barbie stage .......

Cheers!

Curious 09-07-2006 11:14 PM

yes...my dad has pd. and since there are studies about the children of people with pd...i thought i'd throw in my poop or no poop experience.;)

didn't mean to get you upset reverett....but i have mentioned a few times on this bt2 board about my dad....and the bt1 people know..cuz that is how i found them.

and for the record....just because you have a bowel movement daily doesn't mean that you aren't constipated. you might not be fully voiding or have been constipated in the past and what you are actually voiding is old. so hence even a daily bm can mean you are toxic. you can also be toxic if your liver function is low.

btw.....i am a very educated monkey. i wouldn't have posted without it having some significance...nor called my father.

paula_w 09-07-2006 11:53 PM

ok I thought i answered this somewhere but i'd just love to share again...
i don't remember before age 21, i can remember the doctors saying everyone was different and you should have one, yes one, movement a week when I was growing up.

I guess that gives my age away. I am 56 - and can't quite believe it. Mentally I'm in my 40's and may stay there...anyway background information is to give you as complete an answer as possible...and then don't ask a third time ok? lol

For most of my years after age 21 yes chronic constipation, especially when it became known that the 1X a week should have been 1 a day. I was a teacher and always had constipation, busy running, raising kids, extra curricular, piano competitions, cheerleader mom, and it eventaully became a problem. Started having lower abdomen problems, metamucil, blah blah blah -ended up with Irrit. Bowel syn then. Well, talk about backing up,i got a headache that lasted 4 months, which was very alarmiing because i am not a headache sufferer and still am not.Every test. nothing. No one connected them with Parkinson's including me. and my doctor didn't even think of it when I first mentioned stiffness, and other symptoms. Symptoms began in my 30s.

The point being , there is constipation and same with depression, I hear but I don't think I had it other than normal growing up stuff. I had two children in the 80's, thyroid also quit and early menopause started Seemed like more than one system was defective or shutting down. Toxins and hormones looking equally suspicious. But it was an emotional time as well, mother died, we moved back from Hawaii..became parents, on and on . Another strongly suspected trigger for PD. I had them all I think - the precursors. And if the body is backing up, you just keep getting more toxic. Mosquitos don't bite me and neither do cat fleas......yikes

Was exposed to Heptachlor in Hawaii in the late 70's, early 80's , which is a pesticide that ended up in the milk supply and they had to kill the cows. I think Greg D was there too. Know one other person , a friend, who I don't think has an immune system , had a heart attack young, broke her back recently, growths and cancer scares everywhere. Always sick. Weak bones, always doing poorly and in pain.

Well I could go on with this refreshing topic but wont'.....that should cover it .....did i take thw poll - is this the poll?
paula

GregD 09-08-2006 06:10 AM

Well this is a crappy subject for this early in the morning.
Before 21 I was never constipated. However, most people thought I was full of it.
And yes Paula you are right I was in Hawaii during the Heptachlor incident. I don't belive I was exposed though. Being lactose intolerant, I didn't drink milk at that time and still don't.

GregD

The Godfather 09-08-2006 06:12 AM

This Thread makes interesting reading

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The Godfather 09-08-2006 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregD (Post 3977)
Being lactose intolerant, I didn't drink milk at that time and still don't.

GregD

Lactose intolerance is usually due to a lack of NADH, which is what is needed to metabolise lactose.

The formation of L-dopa requires NADH.

For L-dopa to turn in to dopamine requires NADH.

Common cause ?

GregD 09-08-2006 07:28 AM

Not to steal reverett's thread, Thanks for that info Godfather. I will be checking into this.

GregD


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