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BCE2 11-23-2006 09:25 PM

Has anyone tried Celadrin?
 
Hi:

(I really appreciate the info on this forum and OBT.)

A friend sent me an article on celadrin, I've read info on the
website, it sounds promising. It is supposed to work best with
glucosamine and chondroitin. The only reason I have not ordered
it yet is that I'm a procrastinator and plan to order with refills of some
other supplements (to save on the shipping). Costco and Vitacost
both have the pills and lotion form. (Odd note, celadrin is listed on
the lotion as an inactive ingredient...)

Just wondering, has anyone tried it? Which form? Comments?
Should I continue procrastination on that one?

http://www.celadrin.com/studies/studies.html

Thanks,
Kat

mrsD 11-24-2006 09:12 AM

What is Celadrin?
 
Quote:

* Celadrin® is comprised of innovative, targeted & proprietary cetylated fatty acid esters & other active synergists.
* Celadrin's proprietary compound is scientifically designed to be absorbed rapidly and provide immediate and continuous/cumulative pain relief.
* Celadrin®, available for either oral or topical applications, enhances cell membranes throughout the body and restores fluids that cushion bones and joints to promote flexibility and mobility without pain.
* Celadrin® has been shown to be very safe & efficacious as evidenced by gold standard, double-blind, placebo-controlled clinical & scientific studies.
* Celadrin® is FDA compliant and non prescriptive.
From another website:
Quote:

Celadrin is a blend of eight cetylated fatty acids including myristoleic acid (or cetyl myristoleate), Myristic acid and oleic acid. Studies suggest that these fatty acids, especially myristoleaic acid, help support overall joint health and flexiblility. Celadrin plays a positive role in supporting joing mobility by lubricating cell membranes and affected joints, thereby stopping inflammation and preventing stiffness. There have been no reported side effects in any study to date on Celadrin.

What is an ester?
Quote:

ester (ES-ter)

A type of chemical substance that is a combination of acid and alcohol. Esters are found in essential oils (scented liquid taken from plants).
Here is an excellent article about it by Marcia Zimmerman who is very respected in her field:
http://www.thenutritionsolution.com/cm.htm

Quote:

Cetyl myristoleate is the cetyl alcohol ester of myristoleic acid. Technically, myristoleic acid is known as 9-cis-tetradecenoic acid or by its molecular name, C14 H26 O2, a 14-carbon mono-unsaturated omega-5 fatty acid. Myristoleic acid has undetermined biological significance in humans. It's a natural component of the fat of whales, beavers and bovines and its acetylated form, cetyl myristoleate, is found in a particular species of lab mouse. It's therefore surprising that CM became a potential palliative for arthritis and other rheumatic conditions. Current use of this remarkable material stems from a serendipitous event that occurred in the early 1960's at the US National Institutes of Health (NIH)......Cetyl myristoleate appears to be a safe supplement and well tolerated by most patients, although there is no published information available on its absorption and metabolism. The digestability of CM has been questioned, since some patients fail to respond and a few have reported digestive disturbances, Consequently, physicians may have advised taking high-lipase digestive enzymes to improve utilization. On the flip side is concern that hydrolysis of CM into cetyl alcohol and fatty acids in the gut might reduce its effectiveness.
The bolded sentence indicates why topical forms are now becoming more
common. Please read all of Marcia Zimmerman's article.

The bottom line is that CMO is not showing harmful potential, however, response to it may not be worth the cost. It is a shame that I had to dig around to find the "truth" for you... slick websites like the Celadrin one are only there to SELL, not really inform.

The reason that the Celadrin (CMO) is listed as an inert ingredient, is that there are no definitive studies to show effectiveness for the FDA (which requires effectiveness for labeling). For example, SAMe has 3 categories approved for effectiveness which is very unusual in a supplement. (that is why I use it and I can testify that it works).

A similar thing happens with Biofreeze. It has Ilex in it..which is a very good healing herb. It is the same Ilex that is in Yerba Mate tea.
But it is listed on the ingredients, as inert. I really like Biofreeze. Have you tried it?

Sydney 11-25-2006 12:59 PM

biofreze,celadrin for FM or RSD
 
Just wondering if either of these would be effective for these conditions. I have heard many people who are pleased with the pain relief of biofreze. Yet, if it is like an icy feeling - you aren't supposed to use ice on RSD. Also, these products seem like they are for joint pain. I was thinking of adding glucosamine but that also seems like it is more for joint pain.
I am now trying Zymitol. I read that it is an anti inflamatory. Also talking myo mag which has malic acid in it. The dosage is 1200L malic acid and 300 msgnesium from magnesium (from malatedigylycinate and carbonate). Maybe I should up the magnesium.
Still trying to find pain relief ...............................
Sydney

mrsD 11-25-2006 08:10 PM

the way that menthol
 
works for pain, is that it stimulates the cold nerve receptors. It does not create cold on its own.

When those nerves fire, they block the firing of the other nerves that are
sending pain signals.

So while Biofreeze sounds cold, it does not change the temperature of the
area to which it is applied. Biofreeze has 3.5% menthol and Ilex in it.
I think the Ilex is active, and useful. I use it in tea form with great success. (yerba mate).


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