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NAM1 02-15-2009 06:08 PM
Problems with DDS, gumline: HELP!
 
My initial goal was 4 front teeth that fit, with a slightly higher gum line.
I need a DDS who will listen, W/O ANGER, and W/PATIENCE, to a gunshy PT who has been thru 3+yrs of grief trying to fix a prob starting 12/2005 w/a DDS whom I really liked but would not admit he was in over his head. He repeatedly tried to bond 4 teeth as well as doing 6 gingivectomies instead of recognizing a need for bone reduction. Serious inflammation resulted; as well, cords were found months later left in, contributing to the prob. I finally gave up despite assurances he could fix it. He has now left practicing after promising and failing to fix his errors.
Bone reduction has now been done; and I have been thru more mistakes and probs: including refusals to wk w/my oral surgeon and his mistakes (correctly done bone reduction, but poorly done gingv as well as corresp mistake on access tooth 11's gum). There is a gen reluctance to wk w/a type 1 DM PT; and ALL 6 DDSs HAVE DIFFERENT OPIONIONS.
The last has "personal problems" which "sometimes come into her prof life" gradually enlightened to me by the DDS' (now fmr) tech during the 2nd and 3rd of 6 unfortunately progressive (required prepd) TXs. She is potentially and unpredictably explosive in manner and I dare not return to her. I could (and can) no longer tolerate her anger. While she has in fact thankfully fixed some mistakes via provisional teeth (which I pd an additional $1000 for) described as nec for healing; and 2 + 3 addl gingivectomies, I have by far found her to be the most difficult DDS to talk or work with.
It was then inferred I was lucky to have had her accept me as a PT and I should accept whatever results she felt were an improvement.
The results at my last appt were unexpected.* She angrily told me they were acceptable, not that bad, and any further charges were mine. Exhausted, I accepted crowns 8+9 with an uneven gum line and resolved to look elsewhere for help.
*#9 had a repeat gingv 1.28.9, but the new trainee tech put in a temp that was too high and the gum line stayed with it. #8 had a repeat gingv 12.30.8, and while the same tech put in a lower temp, and the gum line has stayed with that as well. The 2 crowns were to be made alike 1.28.9; however, the difference in the gum line is now 2mm.
I would like #s 8+9 to be more alike as they are together and right in front. #s 7+10 are not "perfect" and that is fine!
Ideally, I would like to have #9 removed PRN ONLY, shaved off minimally 1mm+ (which she refused to do prior to seating), wearing a temp or #9 as a temp while the gum line comes down per past experience, and then reseated. If it can be done w/o removal, that of course is preferable.
#8 has typically been the worst area for inflammation.
None of 7 8 9 or 10 has "relaxed" per DDS' prediction.
She also has refused to address the length of all crowns, saying flatly she does not want to consider it as she likes them cosmetically as is. That's the least of probs.
I once had a DDS tell me the earlier the better for saving a crown. These 2 are still a little loose. I would prefer to work w/the crowns I have; they are well made. (I have also pd for this wk twice.)
Please help me. Is there anything I can, should or should not do while I try to find a DDS who w/wk w/this mess? I feel time is of the essence while these crowns are relatively newly done.
Thanks so much!!

Chemar 02-15-2009 10:50 PM
Hi and welcome to Neurotalk tho sorry to hear of the dental woes

I have copied your post to our dental forum as well
here is the link to it so you can check for replies there too
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/sh...ad.php?t=77939

Koala77 02-16-2009 12:11 AM
Hi there NAM1, and welcome to NeuroTalk.

We have an excellent dental forum here but please don't be discouraged if you don't get an immediate reply to your question. The member with the dental expertise who answers most of our dental questions, only checks in from time to time, but I'm sure she'll answer you when she gets a chance.

It's good to have you with us NAM; please make yourself at home and have a look around.

Bryanna 02-16-2009 11:58 AM
NAM1,

I replied to you on the dental forum. See you there!

Bryanna


Quote:
Originally Posted by NAM1 (Post 466295)
My initial goal was 4 front teeth that fit, with a slightly higher gum line.
I need a DDS who will listen, W/O ANGER, and W/PATIENCE, to a gunshy PT who has been thru 3+yrs of grief trying to fix a prob starting 12/2005 w/a DDS whom I really liked but would not admit he was in over his head. He repeatedly tried to bond 4 teeth as well as doing 6 gingivectomies instead of recognizing a need for bone reduction. Serious inflammation resulted; as well, cords were found months later left in, contributing to the prob. I finally gave up despite assurances he could fix it. He has now left practicing after promising and failing to fix his errors.
Bone reduction has now been done; and I have been thru more mistakes and probs: including refusals to wk w/my oral surgeon and his mistakes (correctly done bone reduction, but poorly done gingv as well as corresp mistake on access tooth 11's gum). There is a gen reluctance to wk w/a type 1 DM PT; and ALL 6 DDSs HAVE DIFFERENT OPIONIONS.
The last has "personal problems" which "sometimes come into her prof life" gradually enlightened to me by the DDS' (now fmr) tech during the 2nd and 3rd of 6 unfortunately progressive (required prepd) TXs. She is potentially and unpredictably explosive in manner and I dare not return to her. I could (and can) no longer tolerate her anger. While she has in fact thankfully fixed some mistakes via provisional teeth (which I pd an additional $1000 for) described as nec for healing; and 2 + 3 addl gingivectomies, I have by far found her to be the most difficult DDS to talk or work with.
It was then inferred I was lucky to have had her accept me as a PT and I should accept whatever results she felt were an improvement.
The results at my last appt were unexpected.* She angrily told me they were acceptable, not that bad, and any further charges were mine. Exhausted, I accepted crowns 8+9 with an uneven gum line and resolved to look elsewhere for help.
*#9 had a repeat gingv 1.28.9, but the new trainee tech put in a temp that was too high and the gum line stayed with it. #8 had a repeat gingv 12.30.8, and while the same tech put in a lower temp, and the gum line has stayed with that as well. The 2 crowns were to be made alike 1.28.9; however, the difference in the gum line is now 2mm.
I would like #s 8+9 to be more alike as they are together and right in front. #s 7+10 are not "perfect" and that is fine!
Ideally, I would like to have #9 removed PRN ONLY, shaved off minimally 1mm+ (which she refused to do prior to seating), wearing a temp or #9 as a temp while the gum line comes down per past experience, and then reseated. If it can be done w/o removal, that of course is preferable.
#8 has typically been the worst area for inflammation.
None of 7 8 9 or 10 has "relaxed" per DDS' prediction.
She also has refused to address the length of all crowns, saying flatly she does not want to consider it as she likes them cosmetically as is. That's the least of probs.
I once had a DDS tell me the earlier the better for saving a crown. These 2 are still a little loose. I would prefer to work w/the crowns I have; they are well made. (I have also pd for this wk twice.)
Please help me. Is there anything I can, should or should not do while I try to find a DDS who w/wk w/this mess? I feel time is of the essence while these crowns are relatively newly done.
Thanks so much!!

azoyizes 02-16-2009 02:18 PM
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Hi nam1, and welcome to NeuroTalk! :welcome_sign: There are many great forums here with lots of very nice and helpful people who come here. :)

I'm sorry for all your dental problems, and I hope you get them resolved soon.

FranksAngel 02-16-2009 11:00 PM
welcome to neurotalk ... there are lots of friendly and supportive people here so jump right in and start posting ... should you need help, don't hesitate to ask someone ... we are here to help ... again ...
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NAM1 03-19-2009 01:25 AM
RE: Attachmts
 
Hi Chemar
Trying to send/attach pic on a PM - can you tell me how?
TX
NAM1

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chemar (Post 466358)
Hi and welcome to Neurotalk tho sorry to hear of the dental woes

I have copied your post to our dental forum as well
here is the link to it so you can check for replies there too
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/sh...ad.php?t=77939

Chemar 03-19-2009 07:59 AM
Hi
you can link them from a hosted album (eg photobucket) by using the http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/im...nsertimage.gif icon

I dont believe you can attach photos in PM, only in posts

HTH

DM 03-19-2009 07:09 PM
Hello Nami and another welcome to NeuroTalk here. Wow, you've definitely had some dental probs. Hope you take a look around our forums and join in anywhere. Look forward to hearing more from you. Take care.
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