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amit 05-01-2009 06:56 AM

knees' problems
 
Lately, I have strange pains in my knees. Some kind of burning pain. Do you familiar with this problem? Is it connect to the PN or new issue?

Thanks

Hope15 05-02-2009 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by amit (Post 504172)
Lately, I have strange pains in my knees. Some kind of burning pain. Do you familiar with this problem? Is it connect to the PN or new issue?

Thanks


Though bad knees run in my family and I expected to get some problems, my knees really started acting up after I PN. Not only pain in the knees themselves, but a terrible burning sensation both below and above the knee caps...

lee53 05-02-2009 10:04 PM

me too
 
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Originally Posted by Hope15 (Post 504713)
Though bad knees run in my family and I expected to get some problems, my knees really started acting up after I PN. Not only pain in the knees themselves, but a terrible burning sensation both below and above the knee caps...

Hi, Yeah I'm having the same problem, all of a sudden the right knee got swollen and burning went to the Dr. she said burcitis, or OA. I can barely bend it anymore its so painfull is yours? Now the other knee is beginning to feel the same way I'm scared to death I won't be able to walk soon it hurts so bad. "Bless you, LeeAnn

dshue 05-04-2009 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by amit (Post 504172)
Lately, I have strange pains in my knees. Some kind of burning pain. Do you familiar with this problem? Is it connect to the PN or new issue?

Thanks

Hey --

My left knee has just succumbed to whatever nerve malfunction going on within.

I've pretty much full body PN. A month ago I banged my knee while 'roughhousing', and the other person rather agressively proceeded to bite my knee. Teeth marks left and all.

Since then there has been a spread. My knee isn't burning. There is an ache, a deep ache that is getting worse, and it is starting to interfere a bit in walking.

I'm beginning to think that any new injury may just not heal, the nerves going haywire. A bit depressing.

Kitt 05-04-2009 07:34 PM

Since you say a person bit you and left bite marks, maybe you have an infection or such going on from the bite. Human bites aren't good either.

dshue 05-04-2009 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitt (Post 505697)
Since you say a person bit you and left bite marks, maybe you have an infection or such going on from the bite. Human bites aren't good either.


Thanks, but no, there was no skin breakage, and the biting was done over a covered pant leg.

So I'm thinking there isn't infection, which I would prefer having actually, instead a spreading of the pain...

mrsD 05-05-2009 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dshue (Post 505701)
Thanks, but no, there was no skin breakage, and the biting was done over a covered pant leg.

So I'm thinking there isn't infection, which I would prefer having actually, instead a spreading of the pain...

You might want to visit the RSD forum here.
(reflex sympathetic dystrophy)

The type of injury you had, and the spreading occurance of pain suggests this might be an issue for you.

RSD is also a neuropathy, and has some interventions which when done early in the symptoms, may reverse. It is a sympathetic nerve disorder, and may respond to calcium channel blockers when it first appears.
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Clin Neurol Neurosurg. 1997 Feb;99(1):26-30.Click here to read Links
Complex regional pain syndrome (reflex sympathetic dystrophy and causalgia): management with the calcium channel blocker nifedipine and/or the alpha-sympathetic blocker phenoxybenzamine in 59 patients.
Muizelaar JP, Kleyer M, Hertogs IA, DeLange DC.

Department of Neurosurgery, University of California, Davis, Sacramento 95817, USA.

Complex Regional Pain Syndrome (CRPS) is the new name for entities formerly known mostly as Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy and Causalgia. Treatment of CRPS with either the calcium channel blocker nifedipine or the alpha-sympathetic blocker phenoxybenzamine was assessed in 59 patients, 12 with early stages of CRPS, 47 with chronic stage CRPS. In the early stage CRPS patients, 3 of 5 were cured with nifedipine and 8 of 9 (2 of whom had earlier received nifedipine) with phenoxybenzamine, for a cure rate of 92% (11 out of 12). In the chronic stage CRPS patients, 10 of 30 were cured with nifedipine; phenoxybenzamine cured 7 of 17 patients when administered as a first choice and another 2 of 7 patients who received nifedipine earlier, for a total late stage success rate of 40% (19 out of 47). The most common side effects necessitating discontinuing the drug were headaches for nifedipine and orthostatic dizziness, nausea and diarrhoea for phenoxybenzamine. All male patients on phenoxybenzamine experienced impotence, but this did not lead to discontinuing this agent and immediately disappeared after stopping the drug. These results once again stress the importance of early recognition of CRPS, and treatment with either of these drugs could be considered as a first choice for early CRPS, especially because in this series this treatment was not combined with physical therapy making it very cost-effective. In the chronic stage of CRPS, treatment with these drugs was much less successful (40%), even though it was always combined with physical therapy, but it can still be considered, either as a first choice or when other types of treatment have failed.

PMID: 9107464 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
from http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9...ubmed_RVDocSum

RSD often is not easily or quickly diagnosed. But it tends to spread and may even become full body in some patients.

I think for some patients, RSD is something to look into.

daniella 05-05-2009 10:09 AM

I have rsd and pn so I agree with Mrs D you may want to check out over there. The burning and spread are symptoms of rsd. It could not be but something to investigate. I know for me with inner ankle/foot/calf pain I often feel sore latley in other part of my legs. I am not sure if it is cause I compensate and walk odd when my major areas hurt extra or if it is a spread. Feel better

sunnydee 05-10-2009 11:47 AM

Knee Pains
 
I also have knee pain, and I believe it is directly related to PN. I have knee pain all around the knee caps, especially after sitting for more than an hour. Excercise helps. I never have injured my knees, so this is why I believe it is related to PN. My PN started it my feet, first with numbness and has worked up to the knee area.


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