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Twinkletoes 08-13-2009 12:34 AM

GIFT15 -- Hope on the horizon for an MS cure?
 
http://www.statesman.com/health/cont...c-/629953.html

Well, they can cure it in mice, anyway.

They've taken two proteins that, individually, stimulate the immune system. But when they fuse them together in the lab, sprinkle them on B-cells and give them back intravenously, they suppress it!

The treatment was effective with a single dose with no apparent side effects. :)

Judy2 08-13-2009 04:03 AM

HOPE! HOPE! HOPE! Wouldn't this be wonderful if it turned out to be the cure!! It really would be a "GIFT". HURRY PLEASE!! Thanks for posting this, Rochelle! :)

Kitty 08-13-2009 05:30 AM

This would be wonderful if they could find a way to make it a reality for humans. Thanks for sharing the article with us, Twink!

I have one question. I've always wondered about this when they say "mice with MS". How do they know the mouse has MS? Do they do an MRI? An LP? It's a dx that takes so long for some people - what with eliminating dozens of other conditions and all - how do they dx MS in mice? What's the protocol?

My cog fog is brutal these days so the answer may be very obvious.....ya'll don't laugh at me if it is! :o :rolleyes:

pud's friend 08-13-2009 06:26 AM

Fan bloody tastic. This sounds very promising.

and I'm stumped too; how do they know the mouse has ms????

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/l...ow/4889885.cms

kicker 08-13-2009 07:02 AM

I think (THINK) the give rats and Mice not MS, but a disease (stating with e??) and from knowledge they gave it to them and resulting behaviors work on it. It's not MS, mice aren't humans so us MSers don't alway benefit as benefits of cure not transferable. Hope we do this time.

Harry Z 08-13-2009 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kicker (Post 551255)
I think (THINK) the give rats and Mice not MS, but a disease (stating with e??) and from knowledge they gave it to them and resulting behaviors work on it. It's not MS, mice aren't humans so us MSers don't alway benefit as benefits of cure not transferable. Hope we do this time.

What you are referring to is called Experimental Allergic Encephalomyelitis.(EAE) It is a disease that is induced into mice and although it mimics MS in humans it is VERY different. They have been using the EAE mouse model for decades in MS research and for decades there has not been any treatments that have worked in that poor mouse that have eventually been beneficial to human MS patients.

Back in the mid 90's, my wife was enrolled in a MS clinical trial for a drug that stopped and reversed MS in the "mouse". After about a year into the trial, the high dose of the drug caused a fatal heart attack in a patient and the trial was quickly halted and abandoned.

The time span for a discovery of this nature and when it may be trialled on humans is about 10 years!

Harry

kicker 08-13-2009 09:25 AM

They often "cure" mice., but never me. Ah, to be a mouse. Mice and rats have much shorter life-spans so testing for long-term side effects can only be done with humans.

daliadeeelite 08-13-2009 10:02 AM

I am hoping...for sure
 
when I heard the news last night - i was sooooooo excited. I hope we could be a support for eachother - since it seems we are all going through the samething - BUT WE COULD ALWAYS HOPE!!! If this does work - I am proud to be a part of that hospital who discovered this wonder GIFT15.

Hurray - The Jewish General Hospital TEAM - truly Appreciated!!! Keep up the good work!!!

:)

SallyC 08-13-2009 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kicker (Post 551255)
I think (THINK) the give rats and Mice not MS, but a disease (stating with e??) and from knowledge they gave it to them and resulting behaviors work on it. It's not MS, mice aren't humans so us MSers don't alway benefit as benefits of cure not transferable. Hope we do this time.

So true, Kicker...damn mices..:rolleyes:

Are they talking, suppressing the IS again? I hate when they do that..:confused:

notasperfectasyou 08-13-2009 02:06 PM

It's EAE
 
A granulocyte-macrophage colony–stimulating factor and interleukin-15 fusokine induces a regulatory B cell population with immune suppressive properties

The difficulty in magazine articles is the folks writting them often don't know what they are writing about. Just the idea that someone had figured out how to give a mouse MS would be ground breaking. In this case it's EAE again and I can't count the number of times science has cured the mouse of EAE. Ken


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