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Djhasty 08-25-2013 03:00 AM

I have these sores mostly on my left leg, both arms, and the left side of my neck. Though the sores do show up to a lesser degree on my right leg, my bellie, and left breast. I have a new one on my left eye lid. They take forever to heal and leave dark purple scars. Some start out looking like bug bites with an oozie center. When they bust open, I am left with a crater with yuck in the center. Others are red spots of peeling skin. They range from approximately 1-5 mm. Yes! They itch and I do scratch. I wake up scratching. I stop when I finally realize it. I've tried wearing long sleeves and long pants. The sleeves and pants only iritate me. It takes very little to bust the leisons open, and I have to start the healing process all over again. I have tried several different lotions (Epsome Salt [lotion], Aveeno, Vaseline [lotion], generic Walgreens brand, etc.), including the compounded katemine pain cream. I've tried antibiotic cream. I bathe the areas with Epsom Salts as recommended by mrsD. I have added more magnesium to my diet. Nothing seems to help. My Neuro Doc has referred me to a dermatologist, but I am leaving for Southern California in a week and a half for HBOT treatments. I do not have time right now to visit the dermatologist before I leave. I hope the HBOT might help with these sores as well; I (actually my husband) scheduled treatments as a desperate means to stop the progression of my CRPS.

I have read through this thread. my sores sound a lot like what is described here. I was wondering if others with these sores might have some suggestions for home treatment. Please share your thoughts. Thanks.

johnmaggie11 09-14-2013 04:38 PM

Sores that don't heal
 
Sores that don't heal + especially if they're weeping may be varicose ulcers caused by varicose veins, which are sometimes invisible externally.
A skin specialist will not be qualified to diagnose if this is the case.
A vascular surgeon is the only one who will know by external examination.

Kevscar 09-15-2013 01:04 AM

Wounds that Won’t Heal
By Anita L, Davis, PT, MSM, CA-AAPM, CEAS
Life is full of its bumps and bruises. Who among us does not have a knee or elbow scar from a fall off a bike? I remember a phase where I must have fallen every few weeks running on a sidewalk, with a scarred up knee to show for it.

The healing response from these sorts of injuries usually occurs in a predictable sequence. First, the tissues respond with inflammation that can last anywhere from 7 to 14 days. The increased circulation caused by inflammation brings in a flood of specialized cells to clear out wound debris. The next phase, fibroplasia, lasts for 7 to 10 days, and may overlap part of the inflammatory response. Fibroplasia is critical for establishing the presence of cells that begin to produce the foundation for new tissues. The final phase, remodeling, can last for weeks as tissues mature and regain their strength.1

This is not the case when complex regional pain syndrome (CRPS) is involved, since nerves misfire and normal healing processes that are necessary do not occur. Although one study of 1,006 patients found that less than 7% of people with CRPS are affected by chronic open wounds2, this small percentage does not diminish the importance of addressing this issue. When left untreated or treated insufficiently, the wound can rapidly move to an infected state that jeopardizes the rest of the limb. Yet, because of the small proportion of people with both CRPS and chronic open wounds, there is very little literature to guide clinicians in the best practice.

Looking closer at issues that complicate skin integrity, vascular changes are the ones most reported, and the most problematic. Vascular changes have shown varying relationships between changes in the sympathetic nervous system and temperature differences.3 By assessing skin samples, others have noted changes in nerve innervation of hair follicles, sweat glands, and blood vessels.4

For those who have issues at the skin surface, chronic edema is frequently encountered. Using the same population as previously mentioned, 40% of those with complications presented with infection, 35% with ulcers and 36% chronic edema. Chronic edema has been consistently linked to further development of infection and additional complications. In the general population, edema can be managed with compression garments or other mechanical compression treatment, but with CRPS, this treatment is frequently intolerable without additional pain interventions.

Therefore, other strategies are employed, which can include lumbar sympathectomy, sympathetic blocks, or other similar treatments that have not only provided a degree of pain relief, but also assisted in healing the lesions.4,5 Some have even resorted to indwelling epidurals to provide a tolerance for mechanical compression to aid in healing.6,7 In addition, hyperbaric oxygen has been used in wound treatment.8 Although research is still in progress, some results are promising. None of the studies, however, involved the wounds of those with CRPS.8,9

Aggressive treatment may also include surgical reconstruction to aid in arterial blood flow. This even has its challenges in those not affected with CRPS.10 As with any surgical intervention, the surgery itself can pose a risk of increased pain for those with CRPS. It is estimated that 6% to 10% of patients with CRPS will require surgery on the affected extremity for various reasons.11 If provided with appropriate interventions, the probability of negative consequences can diminish. The recurrence rate of those receiving a stellate ganglion block with a surgical procedure was only 10%. This was also seen in those with intraoperative intravenous regional anesthesia using clonidine and lidocaine. The intravenous anesthesia was felt to be superior, given the inherent difficulty and complications with a stellate ganglion block.11

Other skin conditions include ulcers, bullae and other types of wound formation. Infection is a frequent complication of any skin lesion. Typically infections are addressed with antibiotics. However, topical treatments and oral antibiotics have been minimally effective in those with CRPS.7 Laan et al noted treatments such as intramuscular long-acting penicillin injections, intravenous mannitol infusion and intravenous penicillin.2 When infection repetitively develops in wounds of those with CRPS, antibiotics are frequently ineffective. Reasons for resistance to healing with conventional methods include impaired oxygen consumption and vascular abnormalities that affect blood flow in the extremities.2,3,7

With such difficulty in successful healing of wounds in individuals with CRPS, prevention is a critical component. There are generally recognized factors that one can control to minimize the potential of skin lesions. These include abstinence from cigarette smoking, clean hygiene, healthy eating habits, and exercise as able and proactively manage diabetes if present.12

Despite these basic efforts, wounds may still appear. The specific etiology of these wounds has not yet been identified to help determine the best course for prevention. Therefore, when such wounds present themselves on those with CRPS, immediate attention by a healthcare provider is recommended. Having a vascular surgeon involved may be necessary to provide good wound care and comprehensive treatment once infected wounds begin to appear.

Djhasty 09-16-2013 02:37 AM

Thank you johnmaggie11 and kevscar for the information. I believe skin ulcers is what I have. They cover both arms and my left leg. I also have them to a lesser degree on my left foot, the left side of my neck, my left eye, left breast, and my belly. I have been taking Hyperbaric oxygen treatments for the last week. I am seeing some improvement. I have many more treatments ahead. I am sure the HBOT will help me beat the sores once and for all.


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