Thanks Hope :(

Hi shelley,

I began taking grape seed extract (GSE) after I was persuaded that RSD is more likely an ischemia reperfusion injury (IRI) than the result of nerve damage; my decision to begin taking an oral antioxidant is based on research showing that simply applying vitamin E (an antioxidant) to a surgical wound prevented most IRIs.

(I will talk about this in the series of posts I plan to use to describe IRI in bite-size pieces).

As you have seen in my HBO posts, I'm very conservative about taking meds, so I started with 100mg of GSE daily. I noticed that about once a month I would feel (and see) inflammation on the tender skin on the inside of my left wrist. I would apply DMSO to the skin and the inflammation would subside after a couple days. When I increased the GSE to 300mg daily, the inflammation never returned.

(DMSO is a topical antioxidant, and probably only effective when the skin is inflammed. It should not be used to block inflammation under normal circumstances, as it is part of the immune response to pathogens such as viruses and infections, but if you suspect symptom migration, applying it to the skin 3X daily does help.

I guess I'll see if I'm bending a rule here: DMSO comes mixed with a cream, making it less harsh on the skin, and the best way to find a store is to call the manufacturer at 1-800-367-6935. Give them your zip code and they will tell you the location of the closest dealers).

I "oopsed" by mentioning chronic hypoxic RSD without explaining what I meant: ischemia means blockage of arterial blood flow; hypoxia is a deficiency of oxygen reaching the tissues of the body. Hypoxia is the result of ischemia.

When I used the phrase "chronic hypoxic RSD" I meant the cold (cyanotic) stage of RSD as opposed to the inflammatory stage. After studying IRI, I became convinced that RSD is IRI; all RSD, both CRPS-I and CRPS-II. (I will include the science supporting this view in that planned series of posts).

I'm sorry that I made it sound like I was talking about a new and different type of RSD.

(BTW: cyanosis is a bluish or purplish discoloration of the skin due to deficient oxygenation of the blood. When we see cyanosis, we are looking at microvascular systems (MVS') close to the skin surface that are filled with oxygen depleted blood.

Our MVS' should not be cyanotic. It means that blood is not flowing through them. Dead bodies become cyanotic because all circulation is stopped and the cells have depleted the remaining oxygen in the blood. If you're still alive, it means that circulation through the MVS' is blocked).


Hi BroadwayBaby, and thank you for the nice words,

You're right, the inflammatory and hypoxic stages of RSD do overlap. Inflammation can still be spreading when the central area (site of the injury) starts becoming hypoxic.

I'm not so sure about your view of 'specific treatments can only be effective if one is at a certain stage'. I believe it may be possible to stop RSD during the "transitional" stage by using antioxidants if the hypoxic/cyanotic area is not too large: that the body may produce enough VEGF to replace already plugged MVS if the area of destruction is fairly small, but at a certain point I don't think that is true anymore.

I believe that taking antioxidants has helped circulation in my RSD affected tissue; both the allodynia and the burning pain have significantly improved, but I can't be certain this is the result of GSE. Although it seems unlikely, I may be one of those patient's Dr Oaklander talks about who just get better on their own.

My hypersensitivity to cold hasn't improved at all, though, so I don't think my experience offers much support for Oaklanders scientifically unsupportable view that we will get better by the time we're too old to enjoy it.

All the best...Vic

Hi there, Tracy... I just wanted to ask you how you're doing? Did you get a hold of your Dr.?

(((Soft hugs))) :hug: :hug: RSD sure stinks, and I hope you are doing well, and have been able to start treating it.

I called my surgeon to let him know about the RSD. I haven't heard anything back from him. My family Dr. is trying to get me a referral to a pain clinic. The problem is that waiting lists here are one and a half to two years long. That is particularily for the pain clinic in Victoria, or Canmore. Those are apparently the best in the west.
I have come to the point where I can't wear my watch or rings for more than an hour or two. It is very frustruating to always look as if I have just dipped my hands into scalding water. My finger joints do not want to bend. Particularily my knuckles at the base of my fingers. They are painful to bend and the skin always feels as if it is on too tight.
Then there is the red stripe the runs up the radial nerve side of my arm. That is really attractive LOL.
Most puzzling is the pain. It has become more severe in the last couple of weeks, but is it the TOS or is it RSD?
I have intense burning behind my collarbones, that funny red stripe runs right over there. The pain in my underarms, incision sites and into my breasts is what is bothering me the most right now.
The skin on my face will occaisionally become so sensitive to touch that just washing my face, or putting on my makeup beccomes a race to finish before I start to cry.
I am taking grapeseed extract, and some things from Manatech that my mom recommended(Ambrotose and Ambrotose AO) They are antioxidant cell protectors with immune support.
So right now all I can do is wait for Canada's beleaugered health care system to help me along. I am trying desperatley to lose weight, but am having no luck. I need a breast reduction, but now I don't know about more surgery.
Anyway, that's my update, hope I haven't bored you all silly.
Tracy

Hi Tracy! :winky:

You didn't bore me silly. :p

I have empathy for you-- I no longer can wear jewlery (only earrings- no bracelets or rings), and I know what you mean about the hot water look to your hands. My hands go from dead cold and purple to bright flaming red, swelling and HOT!

Sorry I cannot tell you exactly if it is your TOS or RSD acting up... Though I can tell you that some of your symptoms and things you are saying do sound like RSD to me- they sound like my symptoms and I only have RSD. Burning pain is RSD sounding to me- RSD pain burns like MAD! :mad:


Some soft hugs... :hug: :hug: :hug: