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Jomar 03-08-2007 11:33 AM

It is quite the same for many with TOS also - because so few docs really have a good base of knowledge of it. Only a few make use of special MRI/MRA or Neurography tests. So the majority of TOS patients go the many rounds of MDs, PTs, meds, and go thru the WC ringer too.
Just because there is lack of knowledge and lack of a basic test that can prove it.
They call it malingering also.:mad:

HubbyWithRSD 03-08-2007 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jo55 (Post 77760)
They call it malingering also.:mad:

Oh yes - this was one of the words they used in the report (I've been able to actually read over it all now...) :mad:

There are a few things that this "Doc" didn't look into well enough tho before he wrote his report - That this gal has had an MMPI (psych test) before she had another surgery a couple years ago - it was required before the surgery. Came out "well adjusted" and "sound, stable" and just plain ducky! Cant wait till the attorney slams that down this what was the word I saw earlier??....LOL...pindicks throat!!!

Brokenwings 03-08-2007 09:09 PM

Hi Hubby-- I think that IME will soon be "choking"!!! How fortunate that your friend has had a prior MMPI! Not ONLY is that IME NOT qualified to render the opinion of "Munchausen's", he is NOT qualified to make ANY psychiatric diagnoses, should the matter go to trial. ALL psych matters are OUT OF HIS AREA OF EXPERTISE, and a Judge will NOT let him testify after the "voir dire" process which determines the extent of this IME's (bogus) "qualifications"...the IME can only testify in MEDICAL areas for which the Judge has found him to qualify as an "expert". Your friend's attorney will be able to question this IME EXTENSIVELY on cross-examination on his "qualifications", so that the Judge can determine to what EXTENT this IME is qualified to testify, not just psych issues, but
MEDICAL issues (perhaps it will be found by the Judge that this IME is not an "expert" in RSD, thus not alllowed to testify re those issues, either)....

Sounds like your friend is in pretty good shape....her Attorney is probably "licking his chops" at the prospect of de-bunking this "IME"!

Nevertheless, it really is reprehensible that your friend has to be dragged through this ordeal. Best wishes to her....

Brokenwings

WickedGood 03-08-2007 11:02 PM

My Size 15 Shoe Would Like To Meet This Doctor
 
Yuppers I would surely like to kick this ***** in the **** and I'll show him who has Munchausen. Give me a break. Lets line up all these Quacks and have us a nice game of Bowling for Idiots. Thats all I have to say. I'm too dang mad now. Just hang in there. Mark xoxo :D :D :grouphug:

buckwheat 03-09-2007 08:50 PM

Hi Mark,

Love the bowling alley idea for the duck MD's, we could even use the kiddie racks in the alley. STRIKE:) Love, Roz

Brokenwings 03-09-2007 10:02 PM

You know Wicked, you bring up a REALY GOOD point about Munchausen's.
Isn't it FASCINATING that some IME, or ANY Doc, for that matter, keeps automatically and continually labelling ALL RSD patients as being "fakers" and "Malingerers"?? Kind of makes me wonder if THEY don't suffer from "identification projection" Issues???!!!!

Hmmmmm "Physician, heal THYSELF"....otherwise, get ready for the bowling ball!!

Brokenwings

buckwheat 03-12-2007 11:18 AM

Hi Everyone,

I really believe this Munchausen Syndrome is really just crap.

A dear friend of my husband's last year went to the MD because he was so weak. They told him he just had the flu. So of course he thought he just had the flu. He was not getting better, just worse.

Then he got DX with Acute Lymphoma. He died a few months later.:(

A person goes to the MD because they aren't well. Then to hear that this is in someone's head or the flu is really wrong.

This poor baby died because they accused this child's mother of having Munchausen's Syndrome.

http://www.msbp.com/review_vindicates_mother.htm

If the MSBP diagnosis is eventually proven to be erroneous and negligent, causing real harm or even death to the child, both the physician and CPS workers hide behind a guise of Good Faith Immunity Laws. The physician will proclaim that he had a legal responsibility to report even the slightest suspicion of abuse, even if he hadn't followed standard medical guidelines for researching all possible conditions which would produce the same symptoms. CPS, in turn, will cry that they were only responding to the expert opinion

http://www.msbp.com/

Hugs, Roz

HubbyWithRSD 03-12-2007 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckwheat (Post 78920)
Hi Everyone,

I really believe this Munchausen Syndrome is really just crap.

A dear friend of my husband's last year went to the MD because he was so weak. They told him he just had the flu. So of course he thought he just had the flu. He was not getting better, just worse.

Then he got DX with Acute Lymphoma. He died a few months later.:(

A person goes to the MD because they aren't well. Then to hear that this is in someone's head or the flu is really wrong.

This poor baby died because they accused this child's mother of having Munchausen's Syndrome.

http://www.msbp.com/review_vindicates_mother.htm

If the MSBP diagnosis is eventually proven to be erroneous and negligent, causing real harm or even death to the child, both the physician and CPS workers hide behind a guise of Good Faith Immunity Laws. The physician will proclaim that he had a legal responsibility to report even the slightest suspicion of abuse, even if he hadn't followed standard medical guidelines for researching all possible conditions which would produce the same symptoms. CPS, in turn, will cry that they were only responding to the expert opinion

http://www.msbp.com/

Hugs, Roz

It's funny that you mentioned the MSBP - I knew that there was THAT condition out there - about making their kids sick - I never knew that they had just the "M" part for people accused of doing this to themselves....Someone told me that the AMA or some medical board (cant remember exactly) does not even recognize this as a real condition - Think it should stay that way....


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