Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (RSD and CRPS) Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (Complex Regional Pain Syndromes Type I) and Causalgia (Complex Regional Pain Syndromes Type II)(RSD and CRPS)


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I definitely think that the walker is easier to use than the crutches. It has made things in my life much easier. I also don't have the soreness I had from using the crutches on my sides, arms, etc. My hands would sometimes get really sore in the beginning because I needed to lean on it so much but as I have improved that is not as much of an issue. And a big benefit of the 4 wheeled walker vs the crutches or a 2 wheel walker is that I do not get tired as fast. The energy it takes to use the crutches always tired me out really fast. With the walker I am not using much strength or energy to move the walker, which allows me to put more energy towards the act of walking itself. Other benefits for me with the walker are that it is more stable than the crutches (I feel less likely to trip or fall) and it sort of creates a protective bubble around me when out in public (crutches do too but it seems like it is more so with the walker). But I think the best thing is that you can walk normally with a 4 wheel walker.

What was really helpful for me too with the physical therapy was that I didn't necessarily start walking immediately. Movement doesn't HAVE to mean walking. There are things you can do sitting throughout the day to keep the limb moving when you are not necessarily able to get up and walk. Even now I try to do these if I am sitting for periods of time. I read that with RSD it is good to have equal movement and rest throughout the day vs just relying on doing the exercises all at once. I think that helped me a lot to get from being stuck in a wheelchair unable to stand or walk at all 6 months ago to where I am at now. The pain is still there of course...so far we haven't been able to really get that under control...but the function and strength are slowly coming back.
Oh...also wanted to mention that you can get a 4 wheel walker for as low as $50 too. I did a lot of research because I knew I would be using mine for quite a while and had some very specific needs. I wanted the bigger wheels because they are better for outside and also my house has a lot of uneven floors. I am also fairly short so I wanted one for my height, a canvas bag so I wouldn't have to remove the basket to get the walker in the car, and one that was light enough that if I was on my own I could handle lifting it. But especially if you just want one for in the house or to try out before making a big investment you can get them for less than what I spent. In the same vein...you could get one much MORE expensive than mine...I was stunned at the price of some.
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Thanks so much for your advice again, very helpful!

One major problem in my case has been trying to find the underlying injury, if any at all! A few months ago in Germany we pointed out the hamstring tendon connecting into behind the knee. However now we know there is more to it than just a tendinitis injury. The problem is definitely in that area causing my rsd to radiate to below me knee and foot.

I have had lots of accumulative trauma to this area from 3 falls, surgery and repetitive strain injury following the surgery. Infact I have a stitch on the inside of my knee just where it folds. The docs are definite I have crps however some including my pain doctor believes there is something more to it. She believes I have a firing nerve around my hamstring tendon/popliteus fossa besides the crps. I have done an EMG and numerous nerve tests and MRI's which did not show any problems. Does this 100% rule out a nerve entrapment/pinched/scraped you name it? I have read that nerves can get irritated from adhesions cause by scar tissue leading to contraction etc. This really matches my case but how can I 100% rule in or out a nerve is irritated from this scaring etc?

Otherwise I can just try and compare my symptoms and see if other users have same issue of feeling as though you are stepping on a nerve and getting shocked always in the SAME particular area and constant contraction/spasm and to mcuh discomfort to 'open' the area? Im not even able to lye down with a pillow as my hamstring keeps contracting/spasms and can only keep my knee at 90 degrees where my hamstring is completely loose. This however is the worse physical position as my joints all tighten up but i cant do otherwise.

Sorry for going on and on but im just look for some help/answers and compare symptoms etc

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Going on and on is often the only way we find the answers to our many questions that we have. I've certainly done my share of it.

Hope someone with a similar experience to yours can jump in and give you some more insight. Since the RSD spread to my upper body I often get periods where my elbows (as an example) with freeze up and I can't bend or straighten them out and the pain is just excruciating. But that doesn't seem like what you have as it seems your problem is so much more severe (for which I am SO sorry for you...even with the pain I have every day I am so thankful that it is not worse and I hate to hear that people are suffering so much more than I am). I do not envy the position you are in having to evaluate a treatment option that could make you better with a definite risk of making you worse.

Wish I could be of more help.
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Hey Everyone,

Im Nigel from Malta, turning 21 this month and have a good chance im suffering from RSD and have been for the past 5 months, still without a clear diagnosis.

After doing research for over 5 months, I came across this forum last night and after reading many of your interesting stories, I believe that I have found the right place to get as much honest feedback and opinions as possible.

My Story:

April 2009:

Basically to cut a long story short, I underwent an ACL & meniscus reconstruction successfully 2 years ago after a fall from football. Although did not do the best rehab, I got back to a VERY active life - gym 5 times a week, work and heavy fishing without any trouble besides feeling my knee tired due to it being weak.

November 2010 (Injury):

Back in November I suffered a 2 day period of strong overuse of my knee and kept on pushing on it when my body told me to stop. Since those 2 days, my knee would always feel exhausted and swell from normal day to day activities like walking and driving. As time went by I developed a thin pain behind my knee which felt unusual. From the time of the injury till mid January I was always able to control the pain - as in I would rest and feel no pan sitting down for a few days then would be able to walk a little and the pain almost went completely for a few days. In fact a month later and actually went to the gym (upper body, no cardio) and drove without any pain, however deep down I knew it was still there but just much more manageable with every day activities. Crutches were used on and off.

(nb - The only position I would be pain free/rest would be sitting down with my knees bent at 90 degrees. Lying or elevating would feel uncomfortable and aggravate the pain)

December 2010 (Progress and setbacks):

I then strained my knee again in December by walking for 40min (was the stupidest thing I have done) and the same pain behind the knee came back, slightly worse than the first time. I then continued the rest period with small intervals of driving and fishing which aggravated the pain but up until mid January, the pain was in my hands and was able to control it even though I wasn’t living much of a life and missing a lot of work. Sleep was also never a problem. Crutches were also on and off.

January 2011 (Increase in pain):

The first 2 weeks of January were very similar to December, kept on resting the whole day and would make an effort to go to work (office work). Also went fishing on the weekends but would suffer afterwards. Around mid January things started to get quite bad and out of hand. The pain started to increase quickly behind the knee when out of a sitting position. The pain also started to develop into a shooting pain behind the knee like a tingling shock when lying down or moving round the house. Defiantly felt like a nerve pain. At this point it became difficult to sleep as laying down trigger the pain. I decided to stop all activity at this point and just do whatever it took to control the pain (sit down as much as possible and keep out of pain) and avoid going out of the house, fishing etc. Did this for 2 weeks and did feel an improvement and my sleep did improve and was able to walk more round the house with less pain. I felt as though the 'injury' was coming back into my own hands again but very very slowly.

February 2011 (Knee Arthroscopy):

On the 2nd February I underwent a knee arthroscopy although I was not for it however my parents though it was the best option. The surgeon found nothing wrong and just did a basic clean up of my previous ACL reconstruction, removing scare tissue and come minor cartilage etc... He claimed that the ACL reconstruction was in great shape also.

Things got very ugly after the arthroscopy, my pain had got much worse and I was not able to control it as i had to keep my knee straight for a week. I also had to force myself to do certain exercises afterwards as I lost even more muscle. I was getting very scary pain reactions at night and sleep was difficult. I also started to shake (like small seizures) in the first week afterwards and was taken to hospital 3 times in 10 days due to abnormal pain with nothing that relieved it, tramadol too. The pain also made my cry for the first time in a century. (The day after I ruptured my ACL and split my meniscus at collage, I was told it was just a sprain and had to walk up 4 stories of stairs to my room and lessons, shower etc frequently through the day and was not allowed to use crutches. So I know what ‘pain’ is and am strong in fighting it). This pain was not a pain I could muscle through or fight through. The more you try and fight it, the more it would fight you. My surgeon was also out of answer at this point and couldn’t explain my pain and advised me to fight through and continue with the exercises and stretching.

After 10 days from the OP I was able to start sitting down and bending my knee close to 90 degrees again with hope that the pain will disappear and subside like it did post OP. Unfortunately this was not the case however the pain did improve in this position.
I also took a decision to stop my exercises and get back to the rest phase and try to improve like I was before the OP. After around 1 week of complete rest and no exercises, the pain calmed down again and was able to sleep much better and was also able to walk round the house without crutches slowly a few times a day.

March 2011 (Roller Coaster):

During this month, I was doing my utmost to keep out of pain and stuck to my plan of complete rest. This was very difficult as during this ‘rest’ period I was constantly visiting a number of specialists (around 10 in all including physio therapists etc). I was also doing a number of painful tests. I was also being pressured into moving as much as possible by my family and also did some aqua therapy. The build up of all the tests, doctors’ examinations and aqua therapy got me into a bad state again and back onto the crutches with many sleepless nights. So much for my ‘rest’ period!

April 2011 (Physio Therapy…hospital)

After all the specialists I visited, they all told me that it was down to physio and that my muscle wastage was the problem. My parents also though this was the problem. Although I knew this was no muscle pain, I had no way out at this point as the rest was no longer working and just had to believe again that the PT would get me out.

We therefore decided to go to a Fifa PT clinic in Rome. I was put on an aggressive program of 2 sessions a day – aqua in the morning and gym in the evening (total of 4 hours a day). I decided to give it my all although the pain was indescribable but I was out of options to what else I could do. I followed the program for 3 weeks, increasing intensity everyday and the doctors and physios were all pleased with my progress although I was constantly complaining of sever pain and something not feeling normal in my knee. I was also experiencing many strange symptoms, especially at night. The doctors kept reassuring me that there is no reason to worry and its all normal and that soon I will be out of pain etc etc. This got me very frustrated as it was clear it wasn’t normal and that the pain increasing was not a good sign.

After 3 weeks of physio it was physically impossible to continue and the pain had changed into a devil inside me knee. I was then taken to hospital as I was not able to sleep for 4 days and the pain also travelled into my left hand causing my fingers to cramp up. I was examined by a team of expert and did every single test there, including full body MRI, EMG, blood tests, brain tests etc etc. Everything resulted normal. All they found were muscle inflammations behind my knee on the inside hamstring and calf muscle (7 cm in all). They also found a smaller inflammation on my left knee however they concluded that these inflammations were not the cause of all this horrific pain. The doctors are still working on my case and are suspecting it’s some kind of pain syndrome.

Current Situation:

Currently im stuck in a flat in Rome with my mother and have been put on a pain medication program by a top pain specialist including Lyrica, Amytriptalin, Oxycodine, Cortisone steroids, Paracetamol and Xanax. Although the medication combined with complete rest have calmed me down more, the sever pain and symptoms are still persisting after 10 days on them and it’s a constant struggle for me and my mother hear in the flat as we are both looking for answers from any direction as to what we should be the ‘plan’.

Symptoms:

• Burning pain behind knee, travelling down to feet. Increases severely when knee is straightened.
• Sting pain behind knee, travelling down to ankle.
• Shooting electric pain.
• Feet feel like they are on fire and change temperature cold and hot abnormally.
• Feet change colour and get red and purplish with motty patches. (Goes when elevated). Lately my feet have started to get more redish and dry and hot throughout the day compared to cold white and sweaty in the previous weeks.
• Veins in foot inflame and throb and feel pressured – leading to heating up my toes.
• Intense muscle spasms which build up into crap in my calf going down to my toes.
• Irregular hear beat.
• Sometimes I describe my blood feeling like acid passing through my vains.

My symptoms have started to build up very slowly since January, only experiencing burning, heating of the feet, colour change etc a few time at night every now and again. Since the PT these symptoms have started to creep up more often and even throughout the day not just at night. Currently my symptoms are being experience constantly 24/7 and keep growing on me as time passes.

We are very aware of RSD and although no doctor has clearly indicated that I have it, there is a very good chance that I have it. My main worry is that I have been just over 5 months now and passed through a lot which have aggravated my pain and symptoms and feel like im hanging on the wrong side of the fence with time not on my side if it’s RSD.

Im just looking in every direction at the moment for answers and advice as to what I should if it’s RSD as I don’t want it to get too late since treatment in the first 6 months is critical.

Thanks all for reading and willing to listen to any advice and or precautions I should take at this stage to make sure I do my utmost in trying to have the best chance for remission in RSD.

Thanks a lot,

Nigel
Hi and Welcome Nigel,

I have a similar situation in that after 7MDs I was dx, and it was under the 6th month mark. Unfortunately, my pain was not reversed. I would recommend pain management with someone who specializes in the disorder, and get a prescription for physical therapy. You do not want that knee or foot to be idle.
Good Luck,
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Hey Everyone,

Im Nigel from Malta, turning 21 this month and have a good chance im suffering from RSD and have been for the past 5 months, still without a clear diagnosis.

After doing research for over 5 months, I came across this forum last night and after reading many of your interesting stories, I believe that I have found the right place to get as much honest feedback and opinions as possible.

My Story:

April 2009:

Basically to cut a long story short, I underwent an ACL & meniscus reconstruction successfully 2 years ago after a fall from football. Although did not do the best rehab, I got back to a VERY active life - gym 5 times a week, work and heavy fishing without any trouble besides feeling my knee tired due to it being weak.

November 2010 (Injury):

Back in November I suffered a 2 day period of strong overuse of my knee and kept on pushing on it when my body told me to stop. Since those 2 days, my knee would always feel exhausted and swell from normal day to day activities like walking and driving. As time went by I developed a thin pain behind my knee which felt unusual. From the time of the injury till mid January I was always able to control the pain - as in I would rest and feel no pan sitting down for a few days then would be able to walk a little and the pain almost went completely for a few days. In fact a month later and actually went to the gym (upper body, no cardio) and drove without any pain, however deep down I knew it was still there but just much more manageable with every day activities. Crutches were used on and off.

(nb - The only position I would be pain free/rest would be sitting down with my knees bent at 90 degrees. Lying or elevating would feel uncomfortable and aggravate the pain)

December 2010 (Progress and setbacks):

I then strained my knee again in December by walking for 40min (was the stupidest thing I have done) and the same pain behind the knee came back, slightly worse than the first time. I then continued the rest period with small intervals of driving and fishing which aggravated the pain but up until mid January, the pain was in my hands and was able to control it even though I wasn’t living much of a life and missing a lot of work. Sleep was also never a problem. Crutches were also on and off.

January 2011 (Increase in pain):

The first 2 weeks of January were very similar to December, kept on resting the whole day and would make an effort to go to work (office work). Also went fishing on the weekends but would suffer afterwards. Around mid January things started to get quite bad and out of hand. The pain started to increase quickly behind the knee when out of a sitting position. The pain also started to develop into a shooting pain behind the knee like a tingling shock when lying down or moving round the house. Defiantly felt like a nerve pain. At this point it became difficult to sleep as laying down trigger the pain. I decided to stop all activity at this point and just do whatever it took to control the pain (sit down as much as possible and keep out of pain) and avoid going out of the house, fishing etc. Did this for 2 weeks and did feel an improvement and my sleep did improve and was able to walk more round the house with less pain. I felt as though the 'injury' was coming back into my own hands again but very very slowly.

February 2011 (Knee Arthroscopy):

On the 2nd February I underwent a knee arthroscopy although I was not for it however my parents though it was the best option. The surgeon found nothing wrong and just did a basic clean up of my previous ACL reconstruction, removing scare tissue and come minor cartilage etc... He claimed that the ACL reconstruction was in great shape also.

Things got very ugly after the arthroscopy, my pain had got much worse and I was not able to control it as i had to keep my knee straight for a week. I also had to force myself to do certain exercises afterwards as I lost even more muscle. I was getting very scary pain reactions at night and sleep was difficult. I also started to shake (like small seizures) in the first week afterwards and was taken to hospital 3 times in 10 days due to abnormal pain with nothing that relieved it, tramadol too. The pain also made my cry for the first time in a century. (The day after I ruptured my ACL and split my meniscus at collage, I was told it was just a sprain and had to walk up 4 stories of stairs to my room and lessons, shower etc frequently through the day and was not allowed to use crutches. So I know what ‘pain’ is and am strong in fighting it). This pain was not a pain I could muscle through or fight through. The more you try and fight it, the more it would fight you. My surgeon was also out of answer at this point and couldn’t explain my pain and advised me to fight through and continue with the exercises and stretching.

After 10 days from the OP I was able to start sitting down and bending my knee close to 90 degrees again with hope that the pain will disappear and subside like it did post OP. Unfortunately this was not the case however the pain did improve in this position.
I also took a decision to stop my exercises and get back to the rest phase and try to improve like I was before the OP. After around 1 week of complete rest and no exercises, the pain calmed down again and was able to sleep much better and was also able to walk round the house without crutches slowly a few times a day.

March 2011 (Roller Coaster):

During this month, I was doing my utmost to keep out of pain and stuck to my plan of complete rest. This was very difficult as during this ‘rest’ period I was constantly visiting a number of specialists (around 10 in all including physio therapists etc). I was also doing a number of painful tests. I was also being pressured into moving as much as possible by my family and also did some aqua therapy. The build up of all the tests, doctors’ examinations and aqua therapy got me into a bad state again and back onto the crutches with many sleepless nights. So much for my ‘rest’ period!

April 2011 (Physio Therapy…hospital)

After all the specialists I visited, they all told me that it was down to physio and that my muscle wastage was the problem. My parents also though this was the problem. Although I knew this was no muscle pain, I had no way out at this point as the rest was no longer working and just had to believe again that the PT would get me out.

We therefore decided to go to a Fifa PT clinic in Rome. I was put on an aggressive program of 2 sessions a day – aqua in the morning and gym in the evening (total of 4 hours a day). I decided to give it my all although the pain was indescribable but I was out of options to what else I could do. I followed the program for 3 weeks, increasing intensity everyday and the doctors and physios were all pleased with my progress although I was constantly complaining of sever pain and something not feeling normal in my knee. I was also experiencing many strange symptoms, especially at night. The doctors kept reassuring me that there is no reason to worry and its all normal and that soon I will be out of pain etc etc. This got me very frustrated as it was clear it wasn’t normal and that the pain increasing was not a good sign.

After 3 weeks of physio it was physically impossible to continue and the pain had changed into a devil inside me knee. I was then taken to hospital as I was not able to sleep for 4 days and the pain also travelled into my left hand causing my fingers to cramp up. I was examined by a team of expert and did every single test there, including full body MRI, EMG, blood tests, brain tests etc etc. Everything resulted normal. All they found were muscle inflammations behind my knee on the inside hamstring and calf muscle (7 cm in all). They also found a smaller inflammation on my left knee however they concluded that these inflammations were not the cause of all this horrific pain. The doctors are still working on my case and are suspecting it’s some kind of pain syndrome.

Current Situation:

Currently im stuck in a flat in Rome with my mother and have been put on a pain medication program by a top pain specialist including Lyrica, Amytriptalin, Oxycodine, Cortisone steroids, Paracetamol and Xanax. Although the medication combined with complete rest have calmed me down more, the sever pain and symptoms are still persisting after 10 days on them and it’s a constant struggle for me and my mother hear in the flat as we are both looking for answers from any direction as to what we should be the ‘plan’.

Symptoms:

• Burning pain behind knee, travelling down to feet. Increases severely when knee is straightened.
• Sting pain behind knee, travelling down to ankle.
• Shooting electric pain.
• Feet feel like they are on fire and change temperature cold and hot abnormally.
• Feet change colour and get red and purplish with motty patches. (Goes when elevated). Lately my feet have started to get more redish and dry and hot throughout the day compared to cold white and sweaty in the previous weeks.
• Veins in foot inflame and throb and feel pressured – leading to heating up my toes.
• Intense muscle spasms which build up into crap in my calf going down to my toes.
• Irregular hear beat.
• Sometimes I describe my blood feeling like acid passing through my vains.

My symptoms have started to build up very slowly since January, only experiencing burning, heating of the feet, colour change etc a few time at night every now and again. Since the PT these symptoms have started to creep up more often and even throughout the day not just at night. Currently my symptoms are being experience constantly 24/7 and keep growing on me as time passes.

We are very aware of RSD and although no doctor has clearly indicated that I have it, there is a very good chance that I have it. My main worry is that I have been just over 5 months now and passed through a lot which have aggravated my pain and symptoms and feel like im hanging on the wrong side of the fence with time not on my side if it’s RSD.

Im just looking in every direction at the moment for answers and advice as to what I should if it’s RSD as I don’t want it to get too late since treatment in the first 6 months is critical.

Thanks all for reading and willing to listen to any advice and or precautions I should take at this stage to make sure I do my utmost in trying to have the best chance for remission in RSD.

Thanks a lot,

Nigel
I like to golf with my husband, one day I can do it and put up with the pain after words and sometimes I think I can do and find out while trying to that I can't! Sometimes I feel it worth the pain because you need some enjoyment in life!
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I like to golf with my husband, one day I can do it and put up with the pain after words and sometimes I think I can do and find out while trying to that I can't! Sometimes I feel it worth the pain because you need some enjoyment in life!
Such a big part of my fight against RSD is to continue to find things that I enjoy in life and to do them. Yes...they can aggravate the pain, but I do my best to use all my little tricks to lessen that pain as much as possible. I have also had to find new ways to accomplish things that I enjoy (different ways to hold things and stuff like that). I also try to find new things to enjoy that fit within my physical limitations. It's important to remind ourselves WHY we need to fight so hard to get that function back. Quality of life is so important and a big part of that is enjoying life as much as possible. It's important to know your limits and learn to understand the signs that say when you need to stop and/or take it easy...but to balance that with still doing the things you love and enjoy if you can and to find new things that you enjoy if you can't do the same things you did before.
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