Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (RSD and CRPS) Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (Complex Regional Pain Syndromes Type I) and Causalgia (Complex Regional Pain Syndromes Type II)(RSD and CRPS)


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Old 07-16-2011, 02:21 AM #1
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My doctor was giving me remeron to fall asleep, but my dentist gave me valium for my jaw to take at night because i clench and grind so badly that i crack all of my nightguards that protect my teeth, and next thing I know I am going to crack a tooth if I dont get it under control. I have noticed that the valium makes me fall asleep YAY so i am able to discontinue the remeron which I had BAD BAD side effects from... does anybody take valium for sleep or anything? do you have side effects? I notice a HUGE HUGE HUGE difference in my jaw, before every morning in order to open my jaw id have to force it open with my hands and it would crack a few times and then crack every hour a few times and now its not cracking and opening normally... so im having great results. But just wondering about any side effects.... And I ONLY take 5mg at night for my jaw and so i fall asleep which is a bonus!!!
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Have you tried magnesium supplements to relax the muscles?

Many people are low in magnesium, and could use some daily.

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread1138.html

sorry... I had the wrong link up here... it was a copy/paste error!
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How much magnesium would you recommend? I have taken magnesium for a number of years but never saw a difference. Maybe I am not taking enough?
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If you are taking magnesium OXIDE.... you will so no difference.

It is not absorbed, but remains in the bowel, and is a laxative.

You need an absorbable type:

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread1138.html

What were you taking and how much?
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I dont remember as my mom just gave it to me, But I stopped taking it because I saw no difference. I have TMJ and lock jaw, and ligamentus laxity on top of my RSD which causes my muscles to tighten up to support my bones because my ligaments dont....

What brand, name of it and dosage do you recommend? I will go buy it today and try it out. I take natren probiotics the trinity and notice MAJOR MAJOR improvements when taking that. It was the first supplement that I cried it made my stomach so relaxed and painless because I was actually going to the bathroom regularly and it wasnt cramping... so I believe there are some out there that work! I would WAY rather rely on valum once a week or every once in awhile than having to take it everyday for my muscles. I have tried every other type of muscle pain medicine and I just didnt like them.

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If you are taking magnesium OXIDE.... you will so no difference.

It is not absorbed, but remains in the bowel, and is a laxative.

You need an absorbable type:

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread1138.html

What were you taking and how much?
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Hey. My mom was on valium for many years for sleep. She does not have RSD. I spoke to my doctor about going on it cause I have horrible sleep issues and no meds seem to help. Anyhow valium I guess is very addictive and most people continue to need a higher dose. So for that reason many doctors don't like to rx it. My mom was switched to ativan.
As for magnesium I talk magnesium glycinate that a holistic doctor suggest but have to order it online. Mrs D has sated that Slowmag which I have seen at CVS or Walmart is well absorbed as well.
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My doctor was giving me remeron to fall asleep, but my dentist gave me valium for my jaw to take at night because i clench and grind so badly that i crack all of my nightguards that protect my teeth, and next thing I know I am going to crack a tooth if I dont get it under control. I have noticed that the valium makes me fall asleep YAY so i am able to discontinue the remeron which I had BAD BAD side effects from... does anybody take valium for sleep or anything? do you have side effects? I notice a HUGE HUGE HUGE difference in my jaw, before every morning in order to open my jaw id have to force it open with my hands and it would crack a few times and then crack every hour a few times and now its not cracking and opening normally... so im having great results. But just wondering about any side effects.... And I ONLY take 5mg at night for my jaw and so i fall asleep which is a bonus!!!
I used to have a horrible time sleeping so definitely can relate. For the past two or three months I've been sleeping like a baby. I always take Melatonin, 5-HTP (both are over the counter) and recently my Doctor added Trazodone, 50 mg at bedtime. That, along with my .5 mg of Klonopin knocks me right out and usually keeps me soundly asleep for the night. Trazodone is classified as an antidepressant so also helps with pain and is not addictive. It was Dr. Shwartzman I think who added it to my meds months ago and it reLly has helped tremendously with no side effects.

Valium can help at times but honestly 5 mg doesn't help as much, can leave me more drowsy the next day and can be addictive. That said, I always have Valium on hand for bad nerve pain and do use it for that when needed.
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I have been taking Valium for over a year now for muscles spasms associated with my RSD. I have just recently had to increase my dosage, but only because my RSD spread after having a SCS implanted, and all the complications that arouse. I haven't noticed any adverse side effect from the Valium. The few times I have gone off all my meds to fee the "true pain", and give my body a break, Valium was always the easiest for me to stop taking.
I also take Magnesium daily. Finest Natural 250mg x 2 daily. My surgeon said you can't take too much magnesium esp. for RSD patients, and esp. after any sort of procedure.
I wish you the best of luck. For me if its working, don't mess with it
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Finest Natural magnesium is all magnesium oxide. This is not absorbed in the blood stream and remains in the bowel, and acts like a laxative.
That 250mg is giving you about 4mgs in reality to reach your muscles and bones.
http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/fin...847891-product
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ingredients:Magnesium Oxide , Calcium Carbonate , Microcrystalline Cellulose , Croscarmellose Sodium , Stearic Acid , Citric Acid , Magnesium Stearate , Talc , Sodium Lauryl Sulfate
note: magnesium stearate also is not absorbed, and is only in the product as a "flow" enhancer to allow the powder to get thru the tablet compressing machine. It is present in many tablet formulations of OTC products and vitamins.


Here is my magnesium thread that explains it all:
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread1138.html

You may find the magnesium lotion many of us are using now to be a much better alternative:
CVS Epsom Lotion

Most doctors don't know anything about the different forms of magnesium. Historically in the past magnesium oxide was the only one out there. Today we know it is not effective, and it is basically only used as a laxative (Phillips Tablets).

The link I gave explains it all, and has links to the studies done on people who took various forms of oral magnesium. You might give those studies to your doctor so he can better recommend to his other patients.

It is possible to take too much magnesium, but only for patients with compromised renal functions. Anyone taking magnesium oxide in excess would have diarrhea and not likely poisoning.
Most of the few magnesium poisonings occur from enemas, in the elderly and infants (given enemas).


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I have been taking Valium for over a year now for muscles spasms associated with my RSD. I have just recently had to increase my dosage, but only because my RSD spread after having a SCS implanted, and all the complications that arouse. I haven't noticed any adverse side effect from the Valium. The few times I have gone off all my meds to fee the "true pain", and give my body a break, Valium was always the easiest for me to stop taking.
I also take Magnesium daily. Finest Natural 250mg x 2 daily. My surgeon said you can't take too much magnesium esp. for RSD patients, and esp. after any sort of procedure.
I wish you the best of luck. For me if its working, don't mess with it
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I tend to get a little depression the day after I take valium but it's less pronounced when I use it for sleep.
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