Dear Folks,

Their is a co-infection with a tick born illness called Babesiosis, where HBO treatments can make it worse, people doing HBO might want to research this. Also HBO by itself will not kill LYME. It will help with medications going into a deeper level.

Anyone taking an antibiotic, needs to know as well. Lyme will go into a Cyst form. So you need to treat the cyst form as well. This is why you need a Lyme Literate MD.

Hugs, Roz

Hi Everyone,

I promised God I would help if I got thru the horrid RSD pain that was off the charts.

If you start researching you will see infections have cell forms, cysts, and L forms.

You need to be under an MD's care, a HERX reaction can kill you.

Absolutely nothing can show up in the blood work as well.

Please hang in their, Love, Roz

I wasn't sure what a HERX reaction was so i looked it up.

I'll post what I found in case others weren't sure about what it is.

[Herxheimer reaction
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Herxheimer reaction (also known as Jarisch-Herxheimer or Herx) occurs when large quantities of toxins are released into the body as bacteria (typically Spirochetal bacteria) die, due to antibiotic treatment or rapid detoxification.

Typically the death of these bacteria and the associated release of endotoxins occurs faster than the body can remove the toxins via the natural detoxification process performed by the kidneys and liver. It is manifested by fever, chills, headache, myalgia (muscle pain), and exacerbation of skin lesions. Duration in syphilis is normally only a few hours but can be much longer, up to months or years, for other diseases. The intensity of the reaction reflects the intensity of inflammation present.

The Herxheimer reaction has shown an increase in inflammatory cytokines during the period of exacerbation, including tumor necrosis factor alpha, interleukin-6 and interleukin-8]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herxheimer_reaction

The protocol has been 2.4 ata with antibiotics . Currently some are changing to 2.0ata. I have just been involved with treatment of a Lyme Alzheimer patient and doctor. We saw amazing results with 2.0 ata and antibiotics.The lady had had Azheimers for 9 years. The doctor and I got amazing results from treatment and it was one of his family members. I have been treated by someone who has treated many, many Lyme patients.

Dear Diana,


Their is a co-infection with a tick born illness called Babesiosis, where HBO treatments can make it worse, people doing HBO might want to research this.

Have you studied it, since you are still in pain yourself. Alzheimer patients usually have different infections.

Hugs, roz

Wrong, Roz. None of this is set in stone. Only theories and speculations. *edit*

I'm closing this thread for now also.

cool down time.

I am re-opening this thread after some edits and have also merged the new infections thread into it so the topic stays together

a few points to note

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again a reminder of what the guidelines say about posting at NT
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