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Old 10-18-2008, 09:43 PM #1
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are typically the first to go. Is this boss a middle manager?

I read a really good book recently based on the new data about psychopaths in the workplace. This was co-written by an
expert on identifying psychopaths (20+ yrs research by Dr. Hare of Canada).

The book is called Snakes in Suits, and is really good.
Our library had it, and that is where I found it.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13150054/

You might find it helpful. It is a bit of a downer tho.
My last job was riddled with this problem. It is one reason I retired early!

Just hold tight for a short while...this may settle out in surprising ways. But I would still plan on making a change, and keep options open.

The problem my husband had, fixed itself. His problematic boss was moved laterally, to another division. He was just awful and wouldn't let my husband take his vacation all in one block (we need that for our far away summer place). He did turn him in for bonuses since my husband had a high output, but he harassed him all the same (as if he were envious or something).
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Forget about the slingshot, Shelley.

I'm envisioning something more like the contraption the ladies in "9 to 5" had their boss wearing, and hooked to the garage door opener.



Nah, seriously, you have to keep praying for "those who despitefully use you" or else (as has been said) the strong emotions will poison you from the inside out. It's dang hard, but it really works.

You may look back a year from now recognize this time of tribulation as a blessing. I pray for you and your DH. I'll let YOU pray for the boss (kidding).
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are typically the first to go. Is this boss a middle manager?

The book is called Snakes in Suits, and is really good.
Our library had it, and that is where I found it.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13150054/
Hmmmm its such a massive company that I am not sure if I would call him middle level. I think maybe more senior level. He is a SVP.

I am totally going to get the book. Always helpful to learn how to manage people like these.
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I hope that they transfer his boss to some other division of the business. I'm hoping for the best. I'm going to say another prayer "What the world needs now,is Love sweet Love" BF
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Ah Shel, just seeing this tonight.

If personal and abusive things were said would a letter to HR or higher up be helpful?
Does this boss treat any others the same way??

Even if you don't send the letter now, it might be good have at home in case it ever happens again. To have a record of what transpired??
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Ah Shel, just seeing this tonight.

If personal and abusive things were said would a letter to HR or higher up be helpful?
Does this boss treat any others the same way??

Even if you don't send the letter now, it might be good have at home in case it ever happens again. To have a record of what transpired??
Ah Jo, we wish we would have done this. His abusive behavior has been going on for some time. The boss does treat others badly but treats my DH even worse.

Given that they now have announced thre will likley bee layoffs a letter to HR would not look good right now and more like sour grapes if offered a package.

But he has been keeping copies of all correspondence for a month or two and is sending himself emails after every interaction with commentary of what was said just in case.

Tonight he did his resume and we sent to two peole. Tomorrow two more places so we are trying to be productive.

Thanks Polar It did lift his spirits and just getting some things out to people helped him today as well.

SOmetimes the limbo part weighs on my mind but I am trying to be super supportive.

THanks for your continued prayers.
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I'm praying that every thing will work out for you two sweet people!

Plus...on the cost cutting front..Good to know that Taffy is slipping in all wedding showers, baby showers, etc,and dumping all the Chehalis Mints they have as treats in her purse and will be sending them to you Shells!
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I'm praying that every thing will work out for you two sweet people!

Plus...on the cost cutting front..Good to know that Taffy is slipping in all wedding showers, baby showers, etc,and dumping all the Chehalis Mints they have as treats in her purse and will be sending them to you Shells!
Now that just made my day!
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(((Shelley)))
Looks like you guys are doing fine..Stay positive and be proactive in case the worst happens. If you feel as if you've worked toward being ready for anything, anything can happen and you'll come out on top. Glad things went so well for your DH at HQ. That had to lift his spirits a bit..That, and having a loving, supportive wife.
Still hoping for the best for all ~
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