Thank you.

And please take all the time you need.

I know that processing such surprising info can take a while.

I know it is difficult for most people anyway, because most have never heard or realized that most of the Biblical writers knew nothing of the virgin birth story and the idea seems to belong totally to the crafters of the stories in the books of Matthew and Luke.

It's one of those "little-known" facts that make people go "huh?"

But worth exploring because we tend to make much of the virgin birth without thinking much about it at all.

No problem, and I don't really find it surprising at all, but since it is Christmas Eve, I am going to post some more of the story. BTW, I respectfully disagree with you!

Judy

Luke 2:8-14

8 And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.

9 And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.

10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.

11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

12 And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.

13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,

14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.

Since I haven't even given an opinion on the matter, I can't imagine what you can disagree with......maybe the asking of hard questions?

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Luke 2:15-20

15 And it came to pass, as the angels were gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds said one to another, Let us now go even unto Bethlehem, and see this thing which is come to pass, which the Lord hath made known to us.

16 And they came with haste, and found Mary, and Joseph, and the babe lying in a manger.

17 And when they had seen it, they made known abroad the saying which was told them concerning this child.

18 And all they that heard it wondered at those things which were told them by the shepherds.

19 But Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart.

20 And the shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all the things that they had heard and seen, as it was told unto them.

Philippians 2:5-11

5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

7 But made himself of no reputation, and took unto him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

8 And being found in the fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

10That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth:

11And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.