i take my dog to the doctors a service dog is allowed in hospitals and at the drs'in californa.go to google and put in-calif state laws service dogs ada.it will give you all the information about housing public stores transportion and you don't need certifcation go to your local aspca and they should have information on licences for assistance orservice dogs

Hi, I had a friend who had a lovely pit bull, they were inseparable and extremely devoted. She went through the steps to qualify him as a service dog and this allowed her to get around normal rules such as housing, stores, etc. She had cancer and this dog kept her going until the very end. He was as the Indians say her "Animal Familiar", a shared soul in this life. Good luck and stay positive. Information above was the right place to start. I still smile when I think of the two of them, though she is gone now. What a special couple! Best wishes TT

How is it you only found out about the under 20 lb rule after you bought the condo?



We are trying to buy a house in Florida and they have similar HOA restrictions there. We have a lot of pets - 3 dogs under 20 lbs, 3 birds. We had to pass on tons of houses due to HOA rules, because I am not willing to give up any of these animals to move.

Really tough to find a non-HOA in FL but we finally did.

It can be a long drawn out and, in the end, fruitless battle trying to change HOA rules.

Wiz - the weight restriction is the way they try to keep potential hazzards to a minimum. They used to do it by breed, but maybe it was too easy to get around that. In Ohio, there are still vicious dog laws but in other states they just ban all larger dogs.

This is a major problem. Too bad landlords don't read the Fed Housing Act. The FHA and the state of California both cover that. You are being discriminated against and cannot be refused. Additionally Calif has a requirement for SDs to be registered at the county level. I suggest you do so, tere is no cost for this lifetime tag. Do not let your landlord mess with you as you are guaranteed the right to have your SD with you.

If I am interpreting your post correctly, you have psychiatric disabilities which are alleviated by the presence of your dog. This is certainly my story! Like you, I have a dog which was a pet, then due to her dilligence in loving and allerting me of my anxiety, depression, etc. I have trained her to become a psychiatric service dog.

Rather than an emotional support dog, you may wish to consider training your dog to become a service dog which will protect you from housing discrimination due to your disability. Service dogs are not pets, they are "medically necessary" and part of a treatment plan.

I'm not sure where in California you are located. In some areas it is difficult to find a psychiatrist due to lack of supply. I drive an hour each way to my psychiatrist. I've had him since 1998. Although it is a long drive when I see him, I appreciate the fact he has known me for so long and can read where I am in my head when I walk in the door.

One of the big responsibilities of having a service dog for an "unseen" disability is educating the people we come in contact with. Normally I would recommend shopping around for a psychiatrist and finding one who has experience with patients with service dogs. However, if you are in an area where there are not many choices, you may not find one with this experience. The Psychiatric Service Dog Society (google it) on its home page has a brochure for medical providers introducing psychiatric service dogs (PSD's) to them and the benefits they can have for patients.

I researched PSD's for 18 months before I got a letter from my psychiatrist and began training my pet Polar to become a PSD. During that time, I had discussed the idea with my therapist (who suggested using Polar - duh!). When I went to my Pdoc's office to request a letter he was very difficult...his concern being I would bring a dog into his office where he treated people with allergies to dogs as well as people who had major fear of dogs. I backed way off and told him it was okay, I'd get a letter from my therapist instead. At the same time I handed him the flier off of the PSDS homepage. He kept looking at it and continuing on the the medication review, then looking at it again. I told him we had worked together for years to try to bring some joy into my life. A service dog would help do that for me. It was a tool we could use, but if he didn't want anything to do with it, I would understand. Anyway, by the end of the session (20 minutes) he had totally changed his mind, copied the prepared letter I had brought (also copied from the PSDS website) onto his letterhead and told me to bring the dog into the office with me next time I visited.

If a psychiatrist does not sign a letter, you may find a psychologist or MFT who will. Letters from and MD will carry more weight than a MFT, but the MFT letter should suffice.

I have a friend who uses a herding dog for a PSD and it is a great match. I suggest doing some research on the internet about PSD's. It is a big committment, but since you already own a dog you are familiar with the responsibilities.

This is a longer message than I intended. Long story short, if you can get a letter from a local mental health professional that your dog is part of your treatment plan, you are on your way to becoming protected by the ADA in your housing situation. Check your motives...make sure you really want a PSD before your pursue it. There are many people in public who will resent your "freedom" to take your dog everywhere you go!

Best of luck,
Dawn & Polar

Dear Dawn (and all reading this thread) ....

I was thrilled to read your response to this thread. You were spot on with your advice, so helpful in your specificity.

To anyone needing such a letter, the psychiatrist, psychologist, family doc, whoever, should state that you have a need for an animal as not just a companion for emotional support, but in order to enable you to function closer to normal and cope with your condition.

It is not needed to name the particular diagnoses you have, but I have no problem (personally) with that as I am a strong advocate of the emotionally challenged and "out myself" all the time. My family of origin advocated "hiding the shame and embarrassment", and that does none of us any good in dealing with societies issues with us.

My doctor just said that I had "psychiatric conditions" (C-PTSD, bipolar 2 & ADD) and that I needed my current pet to attain a higher level of functioning, and he specified the various behaviors and emotional conditions my dog helped. At the time, I was a bit uncomfortable with all the detail, but when your doc can agree with you that your emotional/mental health has/is improved by the presence of your dog and be willing to help you verify that for the purposes of housing and reasonable access, then it carries significantly more weight.

I carry my letter with me when traveling by plane, and when visiting friends who live in restricted housing (ie, condos), and I take it in to post offices, doctors offices, public places and IF I am confronted with a negative response, I can drag it out (I keep it protected in a plastic sleeve). Only a hysterical shop owner or a park attendant threatening to call the police can make me decide to leave - life is too short to deal with every single one irrational close-minded individual.

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