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Old 05-06-2008, 11:14 AM #41
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some say its easeier for an illegal to open a bank account

an american had better have 3 pieces of id or no way jose!!
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the requirements for opening a bank account are the same for everyone!

one of the problems I see is too many people believe what "some say" instead of checking on the facts....
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Clouds, how is THIS for "special rights?" Would you like to trade places with these "lucky" Hispanics?

Bail set for Oak Lawn cop accused of extorting Hispanics
Police chief says more shakedown cases may be found

November 8, 2007
BY KIM JANSSEN Staff writer

A rookie Oak Lawn police officer accused of shaking down Hispanic immigrant workers is an "embarrassment ... to the entire law enforcement community," the village's police chief said Wednesday.

A Cook County judge set bail at $100,000 for officer Steven Harrison, 26, who is charged with extorting at least five victims of up to $250 each between Sept. 18 and 27, telling one of them, "This is how we do things in the suburbs."

Working the midnight shift, Harrison allegedly targeted immigrants as they arrived to start work before dawn at an Alsip business park in the 11500 block of Central Avenue, just over the Oak Lawn border, Assistant State's Attorney Dave Condron said during a hearing Wednesday.

In each case, Harrison made traffic stops and threatened his victims, many of whom spoke little English, that they could go to jail if they did not hand over cash, Condron said.

On one occasion, Harrison spent more than an hour negotiating with his victim, sending him home for money before accepting a payoff in the Oak Lawn police station parking lot, Condron said. He said each of the victims later identified Harrison in police lineups.

But Harrison's decision to hand each of his alleged victims a "receipt" on an Oak Lawn parking ticket may be more damaging - while five cases have been charged so far, a search of Harrison's locker revealed a book of sequentially numbered parking tickets with more tickets missing, Condron said.

Police Chief Bill Villanova said "we have found eight of the victims so far," but 14 tickets are missing from the book, suggesting there are more victims.

Villanova termed Harrison's alleged scheme an aberration and said he immediately removed Harrison from patrol duty after the first complaint was made Sept. 27. Harrison, who had been on the force for a little more than a year and still was on probation, was dismissed Oct. 19.

"Personally, it offends me," Villanova said. "It's an embarrassment not only to the Oak Lawn Police Department but to the entire law enforcement community."

Several minor cases, mainly traffic complaints, in which Harrison was the charging officer, will have to be dropped, the chief said.

Police were alerted about Harrison's misconduct by Richard Ehrie, owner of Advertising Resources Inc., who employs several of the alleged victims.

"When I heard about what was going on, I was outraged," Ehrie said. "These are hardworking people who are doing their best to put food on their families' tables, often making not much more than minimum wage, and this ... was stealing half a week's wages from them."

Ehrie said all of the targeted workers were in the country legally but that a culture of corruption among Mexican police meant his workers were conditioned to "pay up and not ask questions or make trouble." It took several hours for Ehrie and Illinois State Police to convince the workers they would not face reprisals if they came forward, he said.

"This cop probably thought they were in the country illegally, but they were not, and people need to wake up and smell the coffee and see that these workers are the backbone of this country," Ehrie said.

One of the alleged victims, Arturo Gutierrez, said he gave $200 to Harrison, but he added, "I'm not scared (of repercussions) - I'm not playing with people like that anymore."

Staff at Northern Products Co., which also employed some of the alleged victims, declined to comment.

Harrison is charged with five counts of felony official misconduct, three counts of felony intimidation and five counts of misdemeanor theft. His attorney, Brian Bennett, told the judge Harrison had a 1-year-old daughter, but Bennett declined to comment after the hearing.

Contributing: Nathaniel Zimmer.

Kim Janssen can be reached at kjanssen@dailysouthtown.com or (708) 633-5998.

http://www.dailysouthtown.com/news/6...7olcop.article
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what it seems like to me is mexico enforces their immigration laws and they deport poor,er people back to costa rica etc so that they can have first chance of coming to usa and taking what they can

pretty smart people arent they? while we pay thier bills

i will vote all republican
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i think they use only a matricla card for a bank account ill reserch later maybe

we cant solve all the worlds problems and it seems we dont take care of our own as we should first

so dont be surprised if the republicans win in novemeber
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Hispanic immigrants have other issues. Illegal aliens are reluctant to reveal their status to a bank, even though the U.S. Treasury now gives banks leeway to decide what forms of identification they will accept. Illegals with Matricula cards (ID cards issued by a Mexican consulate in the U.S.) are permitted to open bank accounts in some states, including Illinois.(i wonder how obama voted on thatone)

Mexican immigrants working off the books are usually paid in cash, and must pay bills and other expenses (such as rent) in cash. Many leave and re-enter the country multiple times, paying coyotes substantial amounts—in cash—for each episode.

http://www.vdare.com/rubenstein/070820_nd.htm

pretty cool -have two countries to live in!!!
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The cop story reminds me of when I lived in Cicero! Those dang cops would pull us over, take our beer and "what nots" and tell us if we told we'd go to jail. Later we would catch them drinking our beer! Oh and don't dare fight with a cops family. You might as well go turn yourself in. lol Their answer? "It's how we do things." Ahhh, gotta love it. Color or decent wasn't an issue. If they liked you, you were good. If they didn't, get out of town.

*This story was brought to you from the late 70's/early 80's. No cops were harmed during this story*
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I know people who are negativistic can be draining.
Similar to what you have posted, I think it is good to concentrate on what we have in common with other people instead of what we don't have in common. This might avoid confrontations with reference to politics and religion. I think generally speaking, when you get down to basics, people are looking for much of the same things.
Thank you for a very interesting post!
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pretty cool -have two countries to live in!!!
Yeah, so, and you're planning to run away to Iceland and be a goat herder!

Sorry, couldn't resist.
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I am a liberal.

Republican President Ronald Reagan gave amnesty to illegal aliens back in the late 1970's...

I like AMN's proactive decision to help immigrants get into our country legally. Kudos.

The Congress has been in Republican majority for a long time, except for this term. But the Democratic majority is stuck because of a Republican strategy to hold up any crucial legislation so that the RNC can label this term as a "do-nothing" legislature. Heard this on NPR. Sad if politics is more important than helping our nation.

Both democratic candidates suit my issues better.

If John McCain reflected the way I want this country to progress, he would have had my vote. But he does not. I am independent that way.

Call me liberal, I like the label. But don't call me stupid.
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