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Old 05-07-2008, 09:10 PM #1
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Default Measles Outbreak

Apparently the CDC is preparing to see the biggest measle outbreak they have seen within the past 7 years. Additionally, may of the people that came down with in (including children) were not immunized.

This came as a surprise to me as I was under the impression you could not go to school without the immunization as well as enroll in college without documented proof that you had been immunized (happened to me when I took some college classes).

I was just curious as to how many of you have been immunized and has your state been effect by this outbreak?
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Isn't it a law or something, that you have to immunize a child?? I remember when my son went to college, we had to scrounge and find the yellow card that listed all his immunization shots.

Am I to understand that many parents dont' immunize their kids anymore. I know that many believe it causes autism, but they don't use Thimerisol in the vaccine anymore, so why are parents still afraid.

I thought it's a requirement.
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Melody, I did too. But apparently some are saying that it is for religious reasons that they don't immunize. But is it really worth losing your child to a disease? What would that feel like if you chose not to immunize and your child did die from it?

These are the 9 states the measles have been reported in: New York City, with 22 cases. Arizona has had 15, California, 12, and Michigan and Wisconsin have each had four. Hawaii, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Virginia and upstate New York also reported cases.

Additionally, many of these people picked up the virus from a foreign country (Switzerland and Isarel were named). However, many cases will start turning up as those who are not immunized may come in contact with the virus. I know that on one of the news stations they were listing hospitals that if you were there between such and such hours you may have come in contact with the virus.
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I think this may well be just the beginning of new epidemics

I had measles as a child and came thru just fine (as did my brother)..... tho I know it can be a very serious and deadly illness.

Both my kids were fully vaccinated
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I understand why so many parents have been opting out because of the vaccines being possibly implicated in autism and other neurological illnesses.

It's a hard issue for many as on the one hand there is the risk of horrid diseases but on the other the risk of other severe harm from the vaccines themselves

I cant find the link right now but there was a recent report that the FDA are taking this possible connection seriously and investigating..........

here is a recent article by David Kirby on the topic
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-...b_b_93627.html

and another by Robert Kennedy jnr
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...adly_immunity/

I am real thankful my kids are grown now as I honestly dont know what I would do based on the extensive info I have gained on this subject over the past 8 years since my son's dx with Tourette

the dilemma will no doubt arise if I am blessed to be a grandma

very very hard!!

anyway, I just wanted to give the other perspective on this
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Uh, this might be a stupid question, but, if a person was vaccinated as a kid and had the required boosters, and that person is now 60 years old, can that person get the measles?

I had German Measles when I was a kid. Wasn't that bad. I know it's different than regular measles which IS bad!!!!

Thanks to anyone who knows the answer.

Oh, one more thing. when Alan's IVIG nurse was here last week, Alan told her "I heard there has been an outbreak of measles in the Jewish Section of Brooklyn, and the nurse said: "There is ALWAYS a measles epidemic".

Very curious.
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I had German Measles when I was young.

There is another measles, Red measles...or is that the same as German Measles.

So long ago, my kids were immunized so even if exposed, it would not matter


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I had German Measles when I was young.

There is another measles, Red measles...or is that the same as German Measles.

So long ago, my kids were immunized so even if exposed, it would not matter

I think...


I think you may be thinking of the Morbilli virus, which you probably know as the red blotchy measles.



German Measles is otherwise known as Rubella.

They are two different varieties of measles.
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In our state you dont have to just have religious reasons. You can be
a conscientious objector. My neighbor does not immunize her son as
she is one who does not believe in immunizations, because her son wont
get these diseases. RIGHT, BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE PUTS
THEIR KIDS THRU NASTY SHOTS!!!!!!!!

Wow, I feel better now, thanks everyone.
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So (and this was my original question).

Once you are immunized and you got the boosters, and you are 60, are you OKAY???

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Lightbulb there is no way to know for sure.

Mel...you are my age....didn't you have measles/mumps and chickenpox when you were young? I sure did.

This "epidemic" is not huge. The vaccine failures for kids who are vaccinated range from 5-15%.

Basically it is these who get measles. Also viruses have "strains" and if this measles is a new strain, who knows?

There is great controversy about MMR vaccines. In Britain, there are very
militant parents there, who have videos of their children before the vaccine and right after the vaccine where the autism develops!

When I was pregnant, my doctor ran titres on my blood (I had 4 pages of blood work) showing immunity to rubella.

You can have titres run...to see if you are immune.

Also there is some thought that having the actual disease gives a "better" immunity than getting vaccines.

Also you need more information... the word "epidemic" can have various meanings that may be very different from each other.
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