When Beethoven was 44, he lost his hearing completely...

but he kept on composing...he heard with his eyes and his hands and his heart...

but his 9th symphony lives on...

when Helen Keller learned about water, she saw with her hands and her skin...

and when she wrote, she wrote it from the dark world that was probably brighter than most people could imagine...

When Harriet Tubman was injured while she was escaping, she became visually impaired and suffered seizures....

but when she helped her fellow slaves escaped, she saw with her hands and her feet and it showed them the road to freedom....

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to me, a good leader is one that will see with their ears, hear with their eyes, listen with their hearts, and walk through obstacles that are ahead, crawl when objects are high, leap when hurdles are placed infront of them and when things get dark, they are able to see the light...and not giving in to the dark world...

and really, for me, personally...talk as little as possible, cause usually, that's just air....

interesting Moi, I liked that, didn't someone once write "seeing with eyes closed is easy to do, misunderstanding is all you see"

Frank, I think it was John Lennon.

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"Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see."

- John Lennon
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I think I have been reading too much philosphy books lately...

Plato was Aristotle's teacher but they have opposite views:

Plato's view was: People are inherently good

Aristotle's view: while people could be taught to be good, they are generally more self-interested, hence his claim in The Politics that “man is by nature a political animal."

I just thought it was interesting...and it is an on going debate.

your avatar reminded me of a few things as I hide yak my own thread...

I love Notre Dame. It is my favorite uni.

When I was in Paris, I made it a point to go to the Notre Dame Cathedral

but it was the Panthéon that I really was looking forward to visiting.

Buried there (finally) was Voltaire, one of my favorite philosophers...

Why I love Voltaire:

TRIGGERING, DO NOT READ IF YOU UPSET EASILY

Jean Calas was a shopkeeper from Toulouse who lived his life of quiet anonymity with his wife and six children.

On March 16 1762, Jean Calas was tied between two iron rings and stretched until....(I'll let you look the rest up if you are interested...)

he did not die, then, they subjected him to "question extraordinaire"...

he did NOT die...

they then bound him to a scaffold, and...(too graphic)

he still did NOT die..

they finally took pity on him, and they helped him to his death...

Voltaire was a rich and powerful person at this time. He was in exile from France.

He became champion of the oppressed...

He did dangerous things for the people...he didn't have to do that....he was a rich and powerful man else where, he could've just retired and lived out the rest of his life in comfort, he didn't....

and it took him three years, but he cleared Calas name...(if anyone is interested, please look up Jean Calas)

When we learned about Jean Calas in my philosophy class in college...the whole class was appalled...and it made me wanted to go "see" Voltaire if I was ever to go to Paris...

and I did...

his body was buried else where and wasn't allowed back and was finally buried at the Panthéon...

I guess in a way, that was what I was thinking of today....

today, is one of those days that my brain is everywhere....

No, no, no, it was Lennon who said, "Into every life a little milk must spill and it's best on top of oatmeal (not that nasty instant kind either)." duh.

hmmmmm...I had thought McCartney said that? Cause I believe that was followed by...

"Milk...on the run....Milk..on the run....while the oatmeal burned, on the stove it churned...and was mushed for everyone...."

(thanks for the smile )

I think that what you're asking, moi, is interesting. In many respects, you do not need your eyes or ears to see or hear. People with those things often don't really see or hear.

Have you heard about the condition known as synesthesia?
http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/syne.html

It's pretty amazing and very intriguing.


Know that's not really what you're asking about but....


Explain clairvoyance. Explain ESP. Explain precognition. Sight is relative.

As for seeing or hearing internally, I think all of us can if we choose to look. Whether or not we take in what we see is a different story, but we can learn so much from true introspection.

Never took a philosophy course. Would love to have done that. Need to educate myself more along those lines. It's like looking at Zen and the sound of one hand clapping. Or breathing through your skin while doing yoga. The mind's an amazing place.

Good or political? Why taught? Can we not innately know that something is not good?