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legalmania · 04-15-2010, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by finz

No one encouraged WHINING for 12 pages.

You specifically wrote "Try not to make it to long, because they are testing you the whole time. If you can sit and type out long letters than you can work." Some of us very strongly disagree with that advice. If detailed requires it being long, that is fine. Obviously, no one should whine for 12 pages......that is VERY different from cautioning people about "trying not to make it too long." It needs to be as long as it needs to be to give a clear picture to SSA of how the applicant's condition is disabling in their life.

SSA is capable of figuring out that an applicant may have typed or written all of that info over the course of weeks, so they would not reject a claim because the typed info proves they could do a job.

I only said that twelve pages of whining is to long. I didn't give any advice about how long someone's application should be. I just said not to long. I had a professor and he taught me a brief should be brief. Brilliant advice from a brilliant attorney.

Jomar · 04-15-2010, 12:38 PM

About the "If you can sit and type out long letters then you can work"....

Often I stop/ save /re open a document and pick up again later as I need to. I love the computer for this.
I'm sure many folks do the same thing.
Even normal healthy folks.

I suppose there is a way to have the edit times show, if "they " are assuming that a longer letter is typed in one sitting.

legalmania · 04-15-2010, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jo*mar

About the "If you can sit and type out long letters then you can work"....

Often I stop/ save /re open a document and pick up again later as I need to. I love the computer for this.
I'm sure many folks do the same thing.
Even normal healthy folks.

I suppose there is a way to have the edit times show, if "they " are assuming that a longer letter is typed in one sitting.

I said if you can sit and write long letters than you can work, there was this judge, nobody liked him much and every time someone walked in without an attorney or representative, he would say that. I think it may have been Christians judge. Poor Christian.
I use to do that until lighting struck my house and fried everything, even with the $400 surge protector I had. So now I just copy to a disk. No worries.

finz · 04-16-2010, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by legalmania

I only said that twelve pages of whining is to long. I didn't give any advice about how long someone's application should be. I just said not to long. I had a professor and he taught me a brief should be brief. Brilliant advice from a brilliant attorney.

You said not to make it too long BECAUSE SSDI would think if you can type that much you could work

finz · 04-16-2010, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by legalmania

I only said that twelve pages of whining is to long. I didn't give any advice about how long someone's application should be. I just said not to long. I had a professor and he taught me a brief should be brief. Brilliant advice from a brilliant attorney.

I think it's a safe assumption that ANY pages of whining is too long.

The SSDI application should be as long as it needs to be to get all of the necessary information accross. No more and no less. You did give advice about how long it should be, you cautioned people to make sure it's not 'too long'

It needs to be as long as it needs to be. A SSDI application is not a legal brief. If someone asks for advice about legal briefs, that might be appropriate advice to give in that thread.

legalmania · 04-16-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by finz

You said not to make it too long BECAUSE SSDI would think if you can type that much you could work

I've only said that 12 pages of whining was to long, but where did I specify how long to long is? If you want to make your application 300 pages long be my guest, I think this should be the end of it.

finz · 04-16-2010, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by legalmania

I've only said that 12 pages of whining was to long, but where did I specify how long to long is? If you want to make your application 300 pages long be my guest, I think this should be the end of it.

You cautioned not to make it too long BECAUSE then SSDI would think you could type that much all in one sitting.

That is not good advice, IMHO

legalmania · 04-16-2010, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by finz

You cautioned not to make it too long BECAUSE then SSDI would think you could type that much all in one sitting.

That is not good advice, IMHO

You can't answer how long? IMO they would rather see the following.

When an Examiner opens a newly assigned file and sees either disc herniation, back pain, lumbar problems, spinal stenosis, degenerative joint disease, degenerative disc disease, or the acronym DJD (which stands for degenerative joint disease) they begin to look for the following evidence (once they have in hand, of course, the records they've requested from a claimant's treatment sources):

1. Physician treatment notes indicating one of these diagnoses.

2. Objective evidence of disc deterioration such as xray reports, CAT scans, and MRI studies.

finz · 04-18-2010, 01:06 AM

The person submitting the claim would not fill those out. SSDI asks for medical records, doctor reports AND how the applicant feels their condition has disabled them.

When the person filing a claim has to fill out their forms, they should give complete answers and NOT feel they have to limit how much they write "because SSDI will think they can work if they write too much" as you said

legalmania · 04-19-2010, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by finz

The person submitting the claim would not fill those out. SSDI asks for medical records, doctor reports AND how the applicant feels their condition has disabled them.

When the person filing a claim has to fill out their forms, they should give complete answers and NOT feel they have to limit how much they write "because SSDI will think they can work if they write too much" as you said

I never said limit, so long as their application is backed up by scans, blood reports, mri's, doctors reports, then explain away. I was going through my files the other day and counted the pages on some of the briefs and motions I've gotten and written over the years and there wasn't one over 16 pages. That was including statutes, case law, medical opinions, cover sheet, legal definitions.

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