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smae 11-09-2010 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rrae (Post 714020)
Why don't you just check with the number on your SSI papers that you received.??? They provided you with a phone number and everything.
Ask THEM these question!

Is there really a need to bite these people's heads off who are trying to help the best they can??

C'mon Sarah, lets put our 'friendly' hats on and remember this is a SUPPORT group :hug:

Try to get some REST.....you have a very important procedure coming up.

Caring (and concerned) :o
Rae

I am not biting people's heads off. I am just saying--I was not asking anyone out there to tell me if this person that they know absolutely nothing about and have never talked to.. is disabled or not. I was simply asking two questions and was not getting answers to those because people were too busy telling me that I have no right to judge the person.

The person has made statements to me that prove that they are lying and cheating the system. And I am not the only one who has that 'evidence'. There are several people.

And that was my point, Rae. The phone number to report things was for MEDICAID--not SSI.

They are two totally different organizations and two very different things. I can't call Medicaid and report someone for SSI. That doesn't make any sense.

It was when I read the thing from Medicaid that I started to wonder about reporting things to SSI, and asked the question. I have never found anything from SSI stating that people should be reported if there is fraud suspected, and that is what I was asking about.

I don't know what OIG is... I am going to look it up, but that doesn't help me much when I don't have a phone number, explanation, or website to show me how that can be of any help.

This person is on SSI, not SSDI... and every time anyone (or at least several people) talk to this person, he or she makes statements about things that are not allowed. Things such as how he or she has a new 'toy' that is well over $2,000. How he or she spent hours doing something that proves that or she could easily be working. There are many people that this person has talked to about cheating the government. And while I don't think he or she has ever been 'stupid' enough to say "I am committing fraud"... it is very clear and there is 'proof'.

Still, my whole question on if SSI asks people to report things or not. If not, then I am just going to keep my mouth shut. I don't live near this person right now and even though I have statements from this person, I'd rather not do something that would result in this person getting angry with me. But on the other hand, if this happens often and if SSI asks people to report these things (like Medicaid does), then I would not feel right not saying anything in the end.

I've known my whole life that this person was receiving SSI for no good reason. It's been years that he or she has been getting it and does not need it. It wasn't until I made the connection that Medicaid asks fraud to be reported that I thought "Hmm... maybe this should be reported, too."

If not, then there is no issue and I won't need to say another word about it.

I just can't find out where SSI stands on it, and if they -want- reports or not.

Shellback 11-09-2010 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smae (Post 714169)
I am not biting people's heads off. I am just saying--I was not asking anyone out there to tell me if this person that they know absolutely nothing about and have never talked to.. is disabled or not. I was simply asking two questions and was not getting answers to those because people were too busy telling me that I have no right to judge the person.

The person has made statements to me that prove that they are lying and cheating the system. And I am not the only one who has that 'evidence'. There are several people.

And that was my point, Rae. The phone number to report things was for MEDICAID--not SSI.

They are two totally different organizations and two very different things. I can't call Medicaid and report someone for SSI. That doesn't make any sense.

It was when I read the thing from Medicaid that I started to wonder about reporting things to SSI, and asked the question. I have never found anything from SSI stating that people should be reported if there is fraud suspected, and that is what I was asking about.

I don't know what OIG is... I am going to look it up, but that doesn't help me much when I don't have a phone number, explanation, or website to show me how that can be of any help.

This person is on SSI, not SSDI... and every time anyone (or at least several people) talk to this person, he or she makes statements about things that are not allowed. Things such as how he or she has a new 'toy' that is well over $2,000. How he or she spent hours doing something that proves that or she could easily be working. There are many people that this person has talked to about cheating the government. And while I don't think he or she has ever been 'stupid' enough to say "I am committing fraud"... it is very clear and there is 'proof'.

Still, my whole question on if SSI asks people to report things or not. If not, then I am just going to keep my mouth shut. I don't live near this person right now and even though I have statements from this person, I'd rather not do something that would result in this person getting angry with me. But on the other hand, if this happens often and if SSI asks people to report these things (like Medicaid does), then I would not feel right not saying anything in the end.

I've known my whole life that this person was receiving SSI for no good reason. It's been years that he or she has been getting it and does not need it. It wasn't until I made the connection that Medicaid asks fraud to be reported that I thought "Hmm... maybe this should be reported, too."

If not, then there is no issue and I won't need to say another word about it.

I just can't find out where SSI stands on it, and if they -want- reports or not.

I found this link on reporting fraud and info about OIG. Hope this helps.

http://www.ssa.gov/oig/public_fraud_reporting/index.htm

smae 11-09-2010 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Shellback (Post 714184)
I found this link on reporting fraud and info about OIG. Hope this helps.

http://www.ssa.gov/oig/public_fraud_reporting/index.htm

Thank you so much. That is what I was looking for. I appreciate your help.

Shellback 11-09-2010 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by smae (Post 714187)
Thank you so much. That is what I was looking for. I appreciate your help.

Ahhh, no biggie. Glad I could help :)

echoes long ago 11-09-2010 03:51 PM

you have no obligation to turn in anyone who you suspect of fraud to the SSA. personally i think you should concentrate on getting yourself as well as you can and live as peacefully and stress free as you can. you have a tough road to hoe with your medical problems for a young person. take care of yourself and dont worry about what other people are doing. It is going to cause you uneeded aggravation.

Speaking for myself, when they arrest even one investment banker who was a part of the fraud which caused millions to lose their jobs, retirement savings, houses, and caused untold misery to the country as a whole, that is when i would start to think about turning in one of the little fish at the bottom of the pond.

smae 11-09-2010 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by echoes long ago (Post 714201)
you have no obligation to turn in anyone who you suspect of fraud to the SSA. personally i think you should concentrate on getting yourself as well as you can and live as peacefully and stress free as you can. you have a tough road to hoe with your medical problems for a young person. take care of yourself and dont worry about what other people are doing. It is going to cause you uneeded aggravation.

Speaking for myself, when they arrest even one investment banker who was a part of the fraud which caused millions to lose their jobs, retirement savings, houses, and caused untold misery to the country as a whole, that is when i would start to think about turning in one of the little fish at the bottom of the pond.

That is precisely -why- I was asking. If people aren't asked or required to report things, then I already stated that I wasn't going to. As I said, "Still, my whole question on if SSI asks people to report things or not. If not, then I am just going to keep my mouth shut."

It is only if I had an obligation to report what I knew... that I was worried about it. And that is why I asked. But thankfully, someone did eventually give me the answer I was looking for, so the case is closed and I've found my answer.

Hoosier_Daddy 11-09-2010 07:04 PM

My husband used to come on here alot but doesn't mess with it anymore. I thought I would respond to this. My husband has mental issues. He is seen outside push mowing the yard. Watering the plants. Different things like this. I personally think people should mind their own businesses. We see it everyday with his disabilities. Question after question. Why, what how. It gets old answering them all the time. Let sleeping dogs lie.

Chemar 11-09-2010 07:18 PM

I am going to be locking this thread now as this board is meant to be a SUPPORT forum to help those going through the confusing and stressful time of applying for benefits, and this topic is not related to that at all.


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