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Originally Posted by finz (Post 737907)

That's the core of the issue RLJ.......everyone else does have the right to describe their condition however they want to. I have not and would not dispute that. The problem is that some people here are making judgements about ALL disabled people that are grossly incorrect. All disabled people are not ill.

All disabled people do not have diseases. All disabled people are not ill. If you broke your neck in a fall and are paralyzed from the neck down, you are disabled, but you don't have a disease. If a child is born without limbs, they are disabled, but not diseased or ill. If a soldier losses limbs in a military skirmish, he is going to be ill for some time. If they recovery goes well, he might end up being disabled, but won't be ill anymore, and won't have a disease.

I will always try to educate and change the misconceptions people have about the disabled.

no one here said all disabled people are ill. if you have lost limbs or are blind you may well not be ill. what i said is that someone with rsd, tos and fibromyalgia and the resulting pain and limitations is ill. Most people who have any one of those usually feel ill never mind all 3. if you have those 3 and have no symptoms and no pain then you certainly are the exception.

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Originally Posted by finz (Post 737907)

Finz,
I understand completely what you are saying. I don’t understand what you mean about passing judgment. People ask for advice and support here and other people give it. How is that considered passing judgment? I just don’t see the purpose for arguing with someone about the terminology they use. It dose not matter if I say or anyone else says I am disabled or ill because most of the time, I know what they mean. Is it not true that some illnesses lead to disability and some disabilities lead to more illness? Whether it's a disability or an illness, it is a problem that most people in this forum have or they wouldn't be here. They come here asking for advice or support and you decide you don't like their words or how they use them so you choose to argue with them or the person giving the advice or support. I simply don't see any point in it and I may be wrong but I'm sure there are others here that would agree. If you don't want people saying that you are ill, simply put something in your signature stating that. I don’t mean to offend you and I'm not holding it against you in thinking you can educate everybody on this forum or any other forum for their misconceptions of a couple of words, I suppose that is your right. But I personally think you would have better luck shooting fish in a barrel.

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Originally Posted by echoes long ago (Post 737929)

no one here said all disabled people are ill. if you have lost limbs or are blind you may well not be ill.

LM has referred to all disabled people as being ill.....repeatedly

I responded to something LM said assuming someone was ill because they are disabled in this thread after reading her similar sentiments in another thread. She HAS said that ALL disabled people are ill and I corrected her on that. Per LM: "Like I told someone else, I don't like to say congratulations to someone who has lost body parts and will be ill the rest of their life" I'm disabled. I have not 'lost' any body parts that I am aware of and while I'm sure I will have some sick days, I certainly don't plan on being "ill the rest of my life"

I tried to enlighten her *edit*. That's it........

Never said anyone here wasn't ill

or

threw a tantrum

I have had to do an edit above and would like to give a reminder that making negative personal comments about other members here is against our guidelines.
One can correct information that is not accurate without becoming personal.

A request to *all* to please not let this thread deteriorate into a pedantic personal back and forth between individuals as that really is not helpful to anyone!

thanks

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Originally Posted by rlj1959 (Post 737933)

If you don't want people saying that you are ill, simply put something in your signature stating that. I don’t mean to offend you and I'm not holding it against you in thinking you can educate everybody on this forum or any other forum for their misconceptions of a couple of words, I suppose that is your right. But I personally think you would have better luck shooting fish in a barrel.

Hi RLJ.

I don't think you do get my point, because it's not about me being called 'ill' or "a misconception of a few words" This is about being against stereotyping and prejudice. That's what it is called when someone generalizes about an entire group of people, making assumptions about what they are, or are not capable of.

point made and well taken Finz.

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Originally Posted by finz (Post 738205)

After reading the post by Chemar above, I will not post any more comments on this subject. I consider the conversation closed.