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Old 01-22-2011, 03:48 AM #1
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I was surprised that I was accepted after the first denial, but my LTD company hired a firm to advocate for SSD for me. It doesn't hurt to let your physicians know that you are applying, so they can be ready to advocate if necessary.

That said, I think my doctor listing my prognosis as "poor" went a long way in my fairly quick acceptance. I have to admit, seeing "prognosis: poor" in my medical records shook me up a bit. I guess with all the body parts I have had removed, and all the interactions, side-effects and restrictions I have on my diet, my prognosis for improving is, in fact, rather poor! If you will never improve, medically, make sure your doctor documents that clearly in your records.

BTW, I was accepted for Crohn's, complicated by having had my entire colon removed, and a less than good result with my j-pouch (recurring complications.) I didn't even have to list my growing neurological complaints, which at the time were diagnosed as just peripheral neuropathy.
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I was surprised that I was accepted after the first denial, but my LTD company hired a firm to advocate for SSD for me. It doesn't hurt to let your physicians know that you are applying, so they can be ready to advocate if necessary.

That said, I think my doctor listing my prognosis as "poor" went a long way in my fairly quick acceptance. I have to admit, seeing "prognosis: poor" in my medical records shook me up a bit. I guess with all the body parts I have had removed, and all the interactions, side-effects and restrictions I have on my diet, my prognosis for improving is, in fact, rather poor! If you will never improve, medically, make sure your doctor documents that clearly in your records.

BTW, I was accepted for Crohn's, complicated by having had my entire colon removed, and a less than good result with my j-pouch (recurring complications.) I didn't even have to list my growing neurological complaints, which at the time were diagnosed as just peripheral neuropathy.
I'm glad to hear you had an attorney and physician who knew what they were doing. Like I told someone else, I don't like to say congratulations to someone who has lost body parts and will be ill the rest of their life, but I'm glad the stress and emotion of dealing with SS is over for now. With body parts missing I think your doctor using the term "poor" would be an appropriate word. SS loves cases like yours it's obvious you are disabled, you save time and a lot of aggravation and paper work, within the system. Take care and enjoy what you can out of life. I sometimes watch the show Mystery Diagnosis and it takes several doctors sometimes up to 10 yrs to figure out what's wrong with someone. When they don't know, they say it's in the person's head. Instead of just saying I don't know let me find someone else. I'm temporarily helping people with foreclosures, that's another mess. I needed a break from the stress and emotion of disability and I'm not even disabled. Take care.
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Like I told someone else, I don't like to say congratulations to someone who has lost body parts and will be ill the rest of their life, .
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Most disabled people haven't actually lost body parts.

Being disabled doesn't mean you are ill.
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Dear RlJ1959,
Sounds like you fileld the 2006 version of the application. In the 2010 version of the application you don't have the same ooportunities to anser in detail, allthough there are ways around it. The 2010 version places the claimant at an extreme disadvantage. I've attached an article I wrote between the differences in the application versions.
2010 Application
In 2010 the Social Security Administration changed the application that had been in use since 2006. The focus and majority of the content of the 2010 application is on “Medical Treatment” which asks for Doctor’s contact information, “What medical conditions were treated or evaluated”, “What treatment did you receive?” and a limited list of potential tests and dates of tests.
The most dramatic change is that you are not given the opportunity to explain how the limitations of your disability affect your ability to work. In the 2006 version of the application you were given an opportunity to detail your illnesses, injuries and conditions and how these affected your ability to work. These vital questions have been eliminated in the new application.
In the 2010 version, Section 3 lists Medical Conditions which is an opportunity to list your illnesses, injuries and conditions and how they limit your ability to work. It’s possible to write extensive answers to this question in an attachment and expand your answer to include the limitations that interfere with your ability to work.
So, in Section 8, Medical Treatment, it’s critical to answer “What medical conditions were treated or evaluated with the illness, injury or condition and most importantly mention how it limits your ability to work. As an example you’re seeing doctor for severe back pain and muscles spasms that occur multiple times a day which limits your ability to sit in a chair for more than an hour, medication lessens the pain but doesn’t eliminate the pain. You could have answered the question with a simple “back pain and muscles spasms” but it does not give the caseworker any idea of the severity, duration or frequency of the problem. Severity, duration and frequency are the three characteristics you want to include in your answer. To answer the question in this manner requires doing an attachment since there is insufficient space on the application for long sentences.
When you answer what treatment did you receive for the above conditions you are ‘forbidden’ to list medications. Many have negative side effects that limit your mental or physical ability to work. Medications are listed in Section 7 of the new application and I highly recommend doing an attachment that answers the question; name of medication, name of doctor and reason for the medication but adding a fourth item, drug reactions. So in Section 7 you would write “See attachment 7” that lists the side effects.
Other than the above mention major changes, the organization of the application has changed. The 2010 application basically asks the same questions just in different places.

Comparison of the 2004 and 2010 Application
2006 Application
Section 1- Information About the Disabled Person
Section 2 –Your Illnesses, Injuries or Conditions and How They Affect You – Deleted
Section 3 – Work History
Section 4 – Doctors’ Information
Section 5 – Medications
Section 6 – Tests
Section 7 – Education and Training
Section 8 – Vocational Rehabilitation
Section 9 – Remarks


2010 Application
Section 1 – Information About Disabled Person
Section 2 – Contact who knows about your condition.
Section 3 - Medical Conditions
Section 4 – Work Activity
Section 5 - Education and Training
Section 6 – Job History
Section 7 – Medications
Section 8 - Medical Treatment
Section 9 – Other Medical Information
Section 10 – Vocational Rehabilitation
Section 11 – Remarks
It’s natural to resist change and those of you completing the new application won’t know the difference anyway. It’s just that you have to work harder to inform SSDI how your limitations affect your ability to work. My personal opinion is that the 2010 form is less friendly to the claimant and is solely based on the doctors you see and what they say in their office notes. If you have not mentioned limitations or they have not written them down then the caseworker has no idea of how your disability affects you. The only way around this is to incorporate your limitations in your answers.

Respectfully, Trudi
I filed in Dec 2009. All I know is the form seemed to have a hundred pages with a million questions. I don't really know what version it was.
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I have osteo arthritis (OA) in my hips, knees, ankles, lower cack and cervical spine. I have been offered a full knee replacement but refused. I am in constant pain and on most days I walk very awkwardly. However, when I manic I can overcome the pain or should I say disregard it. Unfortunately I pay the price when I get down. Usually it warrants a week in the house with a very low mood and aching body.
Has anyone else experienced this which one could say it mimics "mind over matter"
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I have osteo arthritis (OA) in my hips, knees, ankles, lower cack and cervical spine. I have been offered a full knee replacement but refused. I am in constant pain and on most days I walk very awkwardly. However, when I manic I can overcome the pain or should I say disregard it. Unfortunately I pay the price when I get down. Usually it warrants a week in the house with a very low mood and aching body.
Has anyone else experienced this which one could say it mimics "mind over matter"
Hi lawtcrav,

You might get more responses if you start your own thread in the main section below.

If your concern is how to explain to SSA that at times you are able to be more active despite the pain, I would focus on the fact the you pay the price with increased pain afterwards, that your manic periods are unpredictable so you cannot schedule work when they occur, and the aspects of bipolar that contribute to and complicate your disability, like the poor impulse control, poor judgement, tendency to spend money that you can't afford, and inability to concentrate.

Increased physical activity during periods of mania is a symptom of that disorder, not a sign that your physical limitations aren't valid.
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Glad I read this post. I was going to the SS office this morning with exactly the way you mention not to. Well now i will take my time and get all the medical info of my medical conditions from my doctor. I also suffer from diabetes as well as having MG. The one main concern I do have is that I do work P/T which my doctor's recommend me doing as long as i don't put myself in stressful situations that may cause severe fatigue. So I wonder if this will be an issue with the SSI claim? I guess I will find out. Thanks for the heads up.
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It is also important to analyze and document your functional limitations.

Personally, I have a tendancy to not clue my docs in about all the ways I've adapted to daily life and put a smile on when in public and hide away when I'm at my worst. For those that you see infrequently, and only for shorts periods of time, the hundreds of adaptions you might have to make in order to cope with your disability, might not be readily apparent. So, first, you must be brutally honest with yourself. Keeping a journal will likely help. Then ask your doc for some extra time to discuss your limitations with you in preparation for your SSD application. (Relating the realities of your life isn't tantamount to whining.) Even if your doc is supportive of your application, and believes your disability is severe, he might not have an understanding of your daily functional limitations. And honestly, for the "suck it up and bear it" patients, you might be surprised how much of your life has changed...

This link explaining Residual Function Capacity is a must read IMHO:

http://disabilityblogger.blogspot.co...-residual.html

If you have legal representation ask them if they have their own Residual Functional Capacity forms, or if they use a different way to document your functional limitations.

If your filing without representation these forms might work for you. You doc might charge you a fee for his extra time since this is a special request.:

http://www.disabilitysecrets.com/rfcdownloadhome.html

The earlier in the process that you supply this type of indepth look at your disability, the better. But, if you're going to have an ALJ hearing, this info is extremely important so that the Voc Counselor and the ALJ can accurately determine if you might be able to perform "other work."

Regarding medications, document the effects and side effects. It's great for you that a med might reduce your pain, but if it causes you to sleep 12 hours a night and nap for another couple, that will effect your ability to work, and don't assume that this is just common sense. If more break through meds are required from activity, which again starts the cycle of additional drowsiness, this is important to address. It is also a good thing to supply a brief explanation of your meds. For example, if you take MSIR--write out Morphine Sulphate Instant Release. Or with a designer drug, such as Avinza or Kadian, include "Time Release Morphine."
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flat broke .went to social services to get help to see doctors for my condition
sent me to ssi office filed claim denied. there was another program that soc serv signed me up for. disability determination services. have two appointments 14th and 18th this month to see two different doctors one is a phd? and the other I don't know what they do... a group of some sort. just received a personal function report that asks a lot of weird questions... sorry really foggy this morning... has any one delt with this and know what is expected from them and where I go now what I should do
Still dont have a diagnosis as to my condition but am convinced that this TBI is a perfect match?
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