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Old 11-01-2011, 03:50 AM #1
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I believe I asked this before. But if one on SSDI is still taking their medication for what they were approved for, seeing docs on a regular basis and not working. Do they still have to be concerned of possibly losing their benefits?
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I believe I asked this before. But if one on SSDI is still taking their medication for what they were approved for, seeing docs on a regular basis and not working. Do they still have to be concerned of possibly losing their benefits?
Possibly. The short OCR form is reviewed by a computer. If you fill it out properly, take your meds, regularly see a doc, claim your condition is unchanged, do no work, in most cases you'll get the letter stating your benefits will continue.

If it gets kicked by an error, than human judgement comes into play. You might get the long form, which you're supposed to treat as if it's your initial application. You might get sent back to SS docs again.

Having to deal with the long form would be as fun as having a root canal IMO.

The CDR link explains all this in-depth.
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So if one gets the long form, its like re-applying all over again? Even though one was already approved and following doctors orders?


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Possibly. The short OCR form is reviewed by a computer. If you fill it out properly, take your meds, regularly see a doc, claim your condition is unchanged, do no work, in most cases you'll get the letter stating your benefits will continue.

If it gets kicked by an error, than human judgement comes into play. You might get the long form, which you're supposed to treat as if it's your initial application. You might get sent back to SS docs again.

Having to deal with the long form would be as fun as having a root canal IMO.

The CDR link explains all this in-depth.
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So if one gets the long form, its like re-applying all over again? Even though one was already approved and following doctors orders?
You're supposed to treat it that way, yes.

I see you found my SHOCKING thread. You'll find the CDR statistics there as well under the DDS section. I thought very few people lost benefits once approved. The numbers are rising. SSDI beneficiaries fare better with CDRs than those collecting SSI.

Look at AZ for example. 25% lose SSDI, 40% lose SSI after a CDR. Yikes
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I just hope they are going after the proper individuals who are robbing it from those who really are disabled. Its sad when you have a true disabilty and your denied and put through such stress, yet others with a so called bad back are out playing golf,working and still collecting disability.

And the link you posted was great (Thank You).Some of those numbers were a bit shocking yes.Being so new to this SSDI thing I had no clue that many lost their benefits when review time came.

Do you personally know anyone who lost their benefits? If so why?

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You're supposed to treat it that way, yes.

I see you found my SHOCKING thread. You'll find the CDR statistics there as well under the DDS section. I thought very few people lost benefits once approved. The numbers are rising. SSDI beneficiaries fare better with CDRs than those collecting SSI.

Look at AZ for example. 25% lose SSDI, 40% lose SSI after a CDR. Yikes
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I just hope they are going after the proper individuals who are robbing it from those who really are disabled. Its sad when you have a true disabilty and your denied and put through such stress, yet others with a so called bad back are out playing golf,working and still collecting disability.

And the link you posted was great (Thank You).Some of those numbers were a bit shocking yes.Being so new to this SSDI thing I had no clue that many lost their benefits when review time came.

Do you personally know anyone who lost their benefits? If so why?

Hope everybody is well!
No, not that I know personally more than having a passing aquaintenance with.

Here's the thing, there are people that work the system, and if you have real evidence of someone doing so, you should report them. But, it's difficult even with an in-depth medical review for a doc with lots of experience to always get it right. That's why there is so many safety nets to keep having applications reexamined. If you saw me out in public, you would question why I was approved. The reality of my life is that I'm homebound except for a few days a month due to pain and the side effects of meds. I don't owe anyone an explanation of why I receive SSDI, and I extend the same courtesy. Those that pose questions that imply they're trying to work the system, I usually will question. In order to be proactive to qualify for or to retain benefits, it pays to be savvy about the system, though... There are no easy answers.

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Untilthebell, anyone working will get the long form CDR and might get pulled back in to see SS docs. Working and going to school are both alerts that someone's health may have improved.

Someone that is very knowledgable confirmed that if you stay below $720 in PT work, you're less likely to lose your benefits. (That's the amount that counts towards Trial Work Period months)
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Untilthebell, anyone working will get the long form CDR and might get pulled back in to see SS docs. Working and going to school are both alerts that someone's health may have improved.

Someone that is very knowledgable confirmed that if you stay below $720 in PT work, you're less likely to lose your benefits. (That's the amount that counts towards Trial Work Period months)
I'm so stressed over the short form 455. I researched it how to avoid a human review it. The remark section should be less than 30 words or 200 characters. I stayed under those numbers; however, I read the threat here and you guys recommend leaving the remarks blank. Now I am freaking out.

Will the PC be able to read 40 MG? I used the section to stay that my condition got worse since I got approved and listed my medications.

Do you think I can white it all out & send in a copy of it so the whiteout isn't noticeable?? I got approved 6 years ago & this is the first time getting a review. Weird, but it happened after I registered online to get a benefit letter.....I haven't sent it out yet. I'm worry about the remark section. Stupid me, I wanted to leave it blank after reading the about the process & my dope part of my brain decided to fill it out....SIGH! Thanks
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You're supposed to treat it that way, yes.

I see you found my SHOCKING thread. You'll find the CDR statistics there as well under the DDS section. I thought very few people lost benefits once approved. The numbers are rising. SSDI beneficiaries fare better with CDRs than those collecting SSI.

Look at AZ for example. 25% lose SSDI, 40% lose SSI after a CDR. Yikes
a very close friend of mine who was collecting ssdi benefits for about 9 years for depression and migraine headaches recently had his ssdi benefits terminated due to not seeing a doctor on a regular basis.infact,he had not seen a doctor since social security last reviewed his case in 2004 in which his benefits were continued at that time.he was sent to one of their doctors as part of the cdr review.due to some financial problems he's been haveing lately he has been unable to afford to go to the doctor and has no way to get there since his car was repossesed.he was sent the 10 page report to fill out as part of the review.since he has not been seing any doctors there was basically not much to fill out on the form except for some basic information.after about 3 weeks after sending in the form he recieved a letter telling him that his benefits were being terminated due to his medical improvement.i guess social security assumed that since he hasn't been to a doctor in a while that his condition has improved to the point where he can return to work and to terminated benefits..i read a story online about this very subject about people who are being affected by the economy and can't afford to go to the doctor on a regular basis and who's benefits are being stopped due to not receiving treatment for their disabling condition.the article went on to say that social security is cracking down on people who aren't truly disabled and who are not seeing a doctor on a regular basis.once approved for ssdi benefits that doesn't mean you have a free pass for benefits for the rest of your life.you must continually prove to social security by continueing to see your doctors and takeing medications so that when the time comes for your cdr review you will have all of the evidence needed to prove that your still disabled and to have your benefits continued.
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