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Janke 08-27-2011 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ginnie (Post 799719)
Dear Ladydeedee, so sorry for the stress. I have been there and done that. even when you do get your benefits,the road is rocky. it is a fight to keep the benefits also I have found out. There is alot of pressure in government because the gov. is broke. We are feeling it first because they don't have the money to cover all of us. They spent our working money as you know on their projects. Now when we need it, and have already put in to the system it is not there for us. So they slow up the system, clog it with regulations, doctor apprs. psych appts. and anyother appointment they can throw at us to slow the sytem from giving you your benifits. You do have the case, so hang in there through all the stuff they make you do. I am sorry for your suffering and those suffering seeking their benefits. None of us asked for these health problems, nor do we want to be in the position that we are in. I just wish it would work out for all of us in need. I am dissapointed in our system, and that I worked the years I did, only to be treated so poorly. I think alot of people feel that way too. Hang in there, and fight for what you know is right. ginnie


I do not intend to minimize your health problems, but your conclusion that the reason claims are denied is that SSA has a systemic plan to deny disbility claimants because the government is out of money is just wrong. According to the actuarial data at socialsecurity.gov http://www.socialsecurity.gov/OACT/S...SDIbenies.html shows that in the last 40 years, the numbers of disability recipients has gone up every year and today there are 3.8 times as many people on disability than there were in 1970. Almost 4 times as many people. I do not have the population increase to compare it to, but I really doubt that there are 4 times as many US residents now as there were 40 years ago. And if there are, that shows that the percentage of recipients remains the same.

The problem is and always has been that there is not enough staff in SSA to do the job any faster than it is being done. I know that there are people who file for SSDI that are not disabled, but their claims are given the same consideration as those of you who are 'truly disabled'. Because being found disabled means you meet the legal standard, that anyone reading the same evidence should come to the same conclusion. A finding of disability is not as black and white as a math formula, but it should be consistent between adjudicative levels. However, ALJ's have broader authority to make decisions, just like a manager can make a decision that a lower level employee cannot make because they don't have the authority.

Most claimants for benefits believe that they are truly disabled and wouldn't be filing if they weren't. But if you were to read all their medical records and listen to their symptoms, you might think they are not. And that is why there should be an objective system, not a subjective system.

It is flawed, no doubt. I think it is impossible to make a set of regulations that everyone thinks is fair because as soon as a line is drawn, the disabled are on one side and the non-disabled are on the other.

SSA has two conflicting responsibilities: to pay valid claims for benefits and to safeguard the trust funds so that benefits are paid to people who are legally allowed to be paid. Don't know how that would be possible without following regulations.

A diagnosis of cancer may mean 9 months of chemo followed by going back to work full time or it could be terminal. A diagnosis of depression may require bi-weekly visits with a therapist and a mild anxiety medication, or it could require intensive inpatient psychotherapy and strong psychotropic drugs to relieve suicidal thoughts and actions. A person with a back injury may no longer be able to do heavy labor but may be able to manage the laborers and go back to work. Another back injury could require strong daily pain pills and restriction of activity to not much more than sedentary. And on and on.

ginnie 08-28-2011 10:10 AM

Re: too slow
 
I compain because during the time I waited for my Judge appt. with social security dissability, I lost every penny two generations saved for. Life savings while waiting. I had no choice or I would have died. The Gov. draggs its feet because it is overwhelmed, that I agree with you. No they probably don't single out any one person, but as a whole, people are suffering in terrible circumstances while they go through terrible physical suffering as well. The system may work, but it is not compassionate. Taking away food stamps because you can't pay your taxes? Well then you don't eat much eithor. After working all our lives, I just think we could be treated a bit better.That is saying it nicely. ginnie

ginnie 08-28-2011 11:25 AM

Trust funds?
 
I was wondering what trust funds are left to pay our benefits with.? I was evidently under the false impression, the monies were spent on other government projects. The current need of cutbacks in government spending is a symptom that something may be wrong. ginnie

finz 09-05-2011 08:53 PM

SS monies stay within the SS system until they are paid out

gilbert 09-07-2011 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ladydeedee (Post 797349)
Hi I am new here and I have read a few posts by others but just wanted to post my situation. I applied for disability almost 3 years ago (dec 2008) and just had my hearing on july 12th. I thought the hearing went unusually well. The vocational expert they hired testified I coyuld not work. The judge ordered me to have 2 additional clinical exams done (one was psych exam for depression and anxiety and the other was general exam for hurt shoulder). I feel as though they went well also. The judge said he ordered it because it was 2009 when the last dr report was entered as it took 2 yrs for a hearing. He wanted an update. Actually am worse than first reports. The judge received these exams back and have my case and said he is going to make a decision. He received it a few days ago. I am on pins and needles as this has been a very stressful journey. Usually decisions are made here before a week is up. Helllppppp me anybody... I feel like I'm going to burst from waiting. Okay I just had to vent.

as tom petty once said in a song.."the waiting is the hardest part"..however,i think that here you are in a pretty good situation for a favorable decision in your disibility claim..you have all the necessary paperwork and doctors files complete and prepared.good luck

don1956 09-07-2011 02:10 PM

lady dede i have the same situation as you.in 2008 i hurt my neck and shoulder.i am now getting treated for high blood pressure and stress/aniexty also.just got a letter from the judge last week that they found me medically disable but there checking on my "non medical" case/part.something that has to do with when the last time i worked in a "quarter year"or something.for me its easy .i havent worked in almost 3yrs:(.so whats the "wait":confused:..good question.so you see your not the only one :(.the tension is great.but please hang in there:hug:


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