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oldcarp 03-09-2012 04:08 PM

drug test for disability pension
 
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Originally Posted by Laga77 (Post 841159)
I applied back in Sept. Today, I went to pay some bills from my online banking account and there was a deposit from SS. Went to the check status page on the SS site and all it says is a decision has been made and I will be notified by mail. I have severe DDD in both my lumbar and cervical spine along with severe arthritis in my right elbow. These along with a knee, hip, and Achiles tendon replacement all from thirty years of doing concrete work. I need at lease a three level fusion in my lower back but I am waiting to go as long as I can before the surgery because they can`t guarantee it will work. Last Fri I got approved for my disability pension from the carpenters union so it has been a good week for me. Maybe now I can get some sleep without having to worry about money, and just worry about the surgery.

Congradulations on your disability pension approval ! I have a question for you and others on disability pension with the carpenters union. I know that when you retire and receive a regular retirement pension with the Carpenters union, you are no longer required to take drug tests. But when you are on DISABILITY pension do they still do drug testing until you reach 62?? Just trying to play it safe

oldcarp 03-09-2012 08:31 PM

I DO NOT want to sound like an addict that abuses drugs. I just am extremely scared of taking anything that could result in a false positive test. I have heard of this happening to people. I have been drug tested for the last 20 years ( no positive results) and it would be nice to know that someone is no longer monitoring my personal life anymore for the next 20 years

Laga77 03-11-2012 08:11 AM

I have never*heard of any drug testing done to retirees, regular or disabled.

ladydeedee 03-20-2012 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Laga77 (Post 841159)
I applied back in Sept. Today, I went to pay some bills from my online banking account and there was a deposit from SS. Went to the check status page on the SS site and all it says is a decision has been made and I will be notified by mail. I have severe DDD in both my lumbar and cervical spine along with severe arthritis in my right elbow. These along with a knee, hip, and Achiles tendon replacement all from thirty years of doing concrete work. I need at lease a three level fusion in my lower back but I am waiting to go as long as I can before the surgery because they can`t guarantee it will work. Last Fri I got approved for my disability pension from the carpenters union so it has been a good week for me. Maybe now I can get some sleep without having to worry about money, and just worry about the surgery.




Congratulations on the approval!!!!!

LIT LOVE 03-21-2012 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by oldcarp (Post 859567)
I DO NOT want to sound like an addict that abuses drugs. I just am extremely scared of taking anything that could result in a false positive test. I have heard of this happening to people. I have been drug tested for the last 20 years ( no positive results) and it would be nice to know that someone is no longer monitoring my personal life anymore for the next 20 years

If you require pain medication from a doc, they can require drug testing. I wasn't required to submit for testing for many years, and then local requirements from some agency/or agencies, changed that. In theory, I've always been paranoid to try prescribed medical marijuana, since it might be legal in CA, but not federally. Can SSDI benefits be terminated due a drug charge if caught? I'm not sure, but I tend to be very cautious.

oldcarp 03-22-2012 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LIT LOVE (Post 862998)
If you require pain medication from a doc, they can require drug testing. I wasn't required to submit for testing for many years, and then local requirements from some agency/or agencies, changed that. In theory, I've always been paranoid to try prescribed medical marijuana, since it might be legal in CA, but not federally. Can SSDI benefits be terminated due a drug charge if caught? I'm not sure, but I tend to be very cautious.

SSD does not do drug testing. The only ones that drug test are pain management Doctors Only if you are on narcotic medication. A new trend of non-narcotic pain relievers are coming out because people are getting tired of the DEA monitoring their lives and the pharmaceutical companies are seeing big potential profits from this

LIT LOVE 03-24-2012 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by oldcarp (Post 863217)
SSD does not do drug testing. The only ones that drug test are pain management Doctors Only if you are on narcotic medication. A new trend of non-narcotic pain relievers are coming out because people are getting tired of the DEA monitoring their lives and the pharmaceutical companies are seeing big potential profits from this


I wasn't claiming SS did the testing. And yes, you'd only be tested by your doc if you required pain meds.

oldcarp 03-26-2012 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Laga77 (Post 841159)
I applied back in Sept. Today, I went to pay some bills from my online banking account and there was a deposit from SS. Went to the check status page on the SS site and all it says is a decision has been made and I will be notified by mail. I have severe DDD in both my lumbar and cervical spine along with severe arthritis in my right elbow. These along with a knee, hip, and Achiles tendon replacement all from thirty years of doing concrete work. I need at lease a three level fusion in my lower back but I am waiting to go as long as I can before the surgery because they can`t guarantee it will work. Last Fri I got approved for my disability pension from the carpenters union so it has been a good week for me. Maybe now I can get some sleep without having to worry about money, and just worry about the surgery.

I was wanting to ask you, Laga77, how is SSD calculating your monthly income of what they will pay you while your getting carpenter disability pension? Is the carpenters disability pension considered a private or public pension? Reason I'm asking is because I too am receiving disability pension from the carpenters pension and i am wondering how SSD will figure in how much they will pay on a monthly basis AND I'm worried for getting disqualified for getting weekly disability checks from the carpenters ( 235.00 a week )since October and then since I was approved for Carpenters disability pension, for 1650 a month ( before taxes ) I will be getting a lump sum of 6 months and then my monthly payments and continue till I am 62 yrs old . THANK YOU !!

jana 03-26-2012 09:05 AM

oldcarp, maybe I can help? I "think" the TOTAL amount you can receive is 80% of your regular salary. That is -- your SSDI AND your carpenters pension amounts added TOGETHER cannot EXCEED 80%. I cannot find the documentation right now -- will look and post the link -- or maybe someone else has it handy. :)

oldcarp 03-26-2012 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jana (Post 864076)
oldcarp, maybe I can help? I "think" the TOTAL amount you can receive is 80% of your regular salary. That is -- your SSDI AND your carpenters pension amounts added TOGETHER cannot EXCEED 80%. I cannot find the documentation right now -- will look and post the link -- or maybe someone else has it handy. :)

I understand the 80% part. But if the carpenters disability pension is a private pension ( which I think it is but not quite sure ), then the amount from a private pension doesn't count towards the 80% amount, and you should recieve the full amount of Carpenters Disability pension and the full amount of Social Security Disability, but thats why I asked Laga77 because he would know by now when he sees his monthly statements and any adjustments ( if any ) are needed. I think this is very critical because if SSD finds out your getting more money than your supposed to, they can stop payments and actually make you pay THEM back some money! Please let us know Laga77 !! Or anyone else that knows! THANK YOU !!


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