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Old 03-13-2014, 11:12 AM #1
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There are potential family benefits for SSI/SSDI recipients with children. http://www.ssa.gov/dibplan/dfamily.htm#fmax

And those that receive SSI often automatically qualify for many welfare programs (it varies by state) like SNAP.
I have been told many times that family member do not receive any benefits at all. Unless they also qualify as disabled under the SSA criteria. My wife is disabled. Just not under SSA standards. At least at this time.

I would never get disability for my children! There is a mandated treatment program. I don't want the government telling me how to raise my kids.
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I have been told many times that family member do not receive any benefits at all. Unless they also qualify as disabled under the SSA criteria. My wife is disabled. Just not under SSA standards. At least at this time.

I would never get disability for my children! There is a mandated treatment program. I don't want the government telling me how to raise my kids.
I provided a link. If you read it, you would understand I was not suggesting that you have your children apply for disability, but rather that SS provides additional funds for a beneficiary's children and/or spouse caring for children. There is no requirement that the children be disabled, or receive treatment, and nor will the government tell you "how to raise them" anymore than a citizen not receiving benefits. The money needs to be spent on them and not on the other adults living with you, but that is not an unreasonable expectation. If you are unable to manage how the benefits are spent, a representative payee should be considered.

If you are unable to understand this information, than contact SS directly or an advocate. If you have a legitimate claim, your children could be entitled to substantial backpay.
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I provided a link. If you read it, you would understand I was not suggesting that you have your children apply for disability, but rather that SS provides additional funds for a beneficiary's children and/or spouse caring for children. There is no requirement that the children be disabled, or receive treatment, and nor will the government tell you "how to raise them" anymore than a citizen not receiving benefits. The money needs to be spent on them and not on the other adults living with you, but that is not an unreasonable expectation. If you are unable to manage how the benefits are spent, a representative payee should be considered.

If you are unable to understand this information, than contact SS directly or an advocate. If you have a legitimate claim, your children could be entitled to substantial backpay.
FYI There are two computations done with the earnings record. One is the PIA, primary insurance amount and the other is the FMAX, the family maximum. In disability claims for individuals who have just enough earning to become insured, the PIA can equal the FMAX which means nothing can be paid to the children or spouse. Best way to find out is to file a claim.
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I provided a link. If you read it, you would understand I was not suggesting that you have your children apply for disability, but rather that SS provides additional funds for a beneficiary's children and/or spouse caring for children. There is no requirement that the children be disabled, or receive treatment, and nor will the government tell you "how to raise them" anymore than a citizen not receiving benefits. The money needs to be spent on them and not on the other adults living with you, but that is not an unreasonable expectation. If you are unable to manage how the benefits are spent, a representative payee should be considered.

If you are unable to understand this information, than contact SS directly or an advocate. If you have a legitimate claim, your children could be entitled to substantial backpay.
I have already contacted the SSA about the benefits you mention. They said there is no such thing as benefits through me for my kids or spouse. In fact, since getting married and having kids, I get less. It went from $900 a month to $600. Which does not make sense to me why you get spousal and dependent deductions...

The only other option they said I could do is file SSI for my children as being disabled. Which comes with the obligation to allow the SSA to dictate mandatory treatment....
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I provided a link. If you read it, you would understand I was not suggesting that you have your children apply for disability, but rather that SS provides additional funds for a beneficiary's children and/or spouse caring for children. There is no requirement that the children be disabled, or receive treatment, and nor will the government tell you "how to raise them" anymore than a citizen not receiving benefits. The money needs to be spent on them and not on the other adults living with you, but that is not an unreasonable expectation. If you are unable to manage how the benefits are spent, a representative payee should be considered.

If you are unable to understand this information, than contact SS directly or an advocate. If you have a legitimate claim, your children could be entitled to substantial backpay.
I read your link. But what office is this at? Each office has their own rules. This may apply at one office. It likely does not apply at the office we are going to. I have been to several offices inquiring about family benefits. It seems to be mostly a legend. Just like the mythical "back pay" you mention. I hear lots of fantastical stories about back pay, yet there is no such thing. Any SSA worker will tell you back pay does not exist. Also, I have been to an SS specialty attorney that said back pay only existed for a few cases in California in the 1970's. Since then? Nothing.

I wish there was something though. Most of my friends pay $2,000 a month for a bachelor pad. We pay all our expenses on a mere $600 a month for a family of 4 and are told we are "wealthy and arrogant" when we attempt to apply for other benefits like SNAP, which disabled families are not allowed to receive...
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NoCmpassion, I sent you a very long private message about the issues you have brought up. Hope it helps you in understanding these complex programs of SSI and SSDI.
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NoCmpassion, I sent you a very long private message about the issues you have brought up. Hope it helps you in understanding these complex programs of SSI and SSDI.
Thank you. *admin edit*

BTW- It seems I have explained things to you

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nocmpassion a cdr is a continuing disability review which can be sent out every 1-7 years depending usually on wether they think you have the possibility of improving medically to the point of returning to work.
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nocmpassion below is a line by line guide from social security on what the codes on the short or long form cdr mean

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https://s044a90.ssa.gov/apps10/poms....1!opendocument

try it again. i has a lot of important information. its definitely a social security official site.


8. “Scanline” data

The scannable mailer includes barcoded information as well as three lines of scannable data on the front of the mailer, immediately below the telephone number and claim number. These scanlines contain substantial information:
Scanline 1 –
Field 1 – Social Security Number under which the mailer is being controlled

Field 2 – Beneficiary Identification Code (BIC) (Title II), or

Individual Recipient Identification code (ID) (Title XVI)

Field 3 – Year of beneficiary's birth

Field 4 – Year of most recent prior CDR

Field 5 – Primary and Secondary Diagnosis Codes


Scanline 2 –
Field 1 – Medical Diary Reason/Type

Field 2 – Concurrent Entitlement information

Field 3 – Profile Type (High, Medium, or Low)

Field 4 – Profiling SCORE (9999 is highest)

Field 5 – Report Period covered by the mailer

Field 6 – Scanning Form Identification Code (SFIC) (describes if it is a first or second request mailer, whether it is Title II, concurrent, or Title XVI-only, and whether the beneficiary prefers a non-English language notice).

Field 7 – Servicing Processing Center

Field 8 – Servicing State Agency/DDS code

Field 9 – Servicing Field Office (FO) Code


Scanline 3 –
Field 1 – Servicing FO City Name

Field 2 – Servicing FO State

Field 3 – Servicing FO ZIP CODE
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I am good at figuring things out.

But...translation please?

Also, first link says it is not trusted for me as well.
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NoCmpassion, I sent you a very long private message about the issues you have brought up. Hope it helps you in understanding these complex programs of SSI and SSDI.
Dear Janke,

All I can say is you are a saint. You have patience I could only dream of possessing. I am sending YOU a PM.

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