[NoCmpassion]

I know this has been covered a million times. I am just inept to forum search engines.

Firstly, I get SSDI. JUst curious what the difference is between SSDI and SSD is?

Secondly, I get SSI. My SSDI is only $300 a month. SSI is another $300 a month. For a family of 12!!! Is it true, since I get SSI, I really do not get SSDI? It is considered just SSI? Say for example, I moved abroad. Will I still get the $300 SSDI? Or is that voided, because I get SSI?

Many more questions to come, and much feedback to add. Thank you dearly if you can be compassionate and helpful.

[Janke]

Originally Posted by NoCmpassion

I know this has been covered a million times. I am just inept to forum search engines.

Firstly, I get SSDI. JUst curious what the difference is between SSDI and SSD is?

Secondly, I get SSI. My SSDI is only $300 a month. SSI is another $300 a month. For a family of 12!!! Is it true, since I get SSI, I really do not get SSDI? It is considered just SSI? Say for example, I moved abroad. Will I still get the $300 SSDI? Or is that voided, because I get SSI?

Many more questions to come, and much feedback to add. Thank you dearly if you can be compassionate and helpful.

There are a lot of acronyms for the two disability programs administered by the Social Security Administration.

Social Security Disability Insurance (SSD, SSDI) is based on the same work credits as Social Security retirement and Social Security survivor benefits. Someone works; pays FICA taxes; earns credits. Amount of disability, survivor or retirement is based on the amount of taxes paid on earnings over a lifetime of work.

Supplemental Security Income (SSI) is a welfare program. It is not paid to people who do not live in the US. It is assistance based on need, not an earned benefits.

Some disability recipients just get SSI, some just get SSDI, some get both. Sometimes one starts and the other stops.

In a previous post you said you were homeless and now you have a family of 12. If you have a family of 12, why aren't they supporting themselves or why aren't the adults in this family of 12 going to work to support the children? Why do you think a government program owes any of this family of 12 any money? Who are the members of this family of 12?

You should start by going to www.socialsecurity.gov and looking for answers. There is a lot of official information that should answer many of the questions you may have and those answers are not based on anecdotes or personal experience.

[NoCmpassion]

Originally Posted by Janke

There are a lot of acronyms for the two disability programs administered by the Social Security Administration.

Social Security Disability Insurance (SSD, SSDI) is based on the same work credits as Social Security retirement and Social Security survivor benefits. Someone works; pays FICA taxes; earns credits. Amount of disability, survivor or retirement is based on the amount of taxes paid on earnings over a lifetime of work.

Supplemental Security Income (SSI) is a welfare program. It is not paid to people who do not live in the US. It is assistance based on need, not an earned benefits.

Some disability recipients just get SSI, some just get SSDI, some get both. Sometimes one starts and the other stops.

In a previous post you said you were homeless and now you have a family of 12. If you have a family of 12, why aren't they supporting themselves or why aren't the adults in this family of 12 going to work to support the children? Why do you think a government program owes any of this family of 12 any money? Who are the members of this family of 12?

You should start by going to and looking for answers. There is a lot of official information that should answer many of the questions you may have and those answers are not based on anecdotes or personal experience.

So SSDI and SSD are the same thing? Why does one thing have more than one name?

It seems I finally understand the difference between SSDI and SSI at least. It is not easy figuring these things out. And no one tells you about them.

My previous post was regards to when I got on disability, over a decade ago. Besides, you never heard of a family living in a crack hotel? That was our last home, actually. Now we have a new place.

I am not working, because I am disabled. Obviously. MY wife takes care of the kids. Working for $100 a week(if she were so lucky) wouldn't even cover child care. And we would lose way more benefits. She doesn't speak any English. There are no jobs around for hundreds of miles. 45 year olds are fighting to get $7 an hour at Micky D's around here. Where is she going to get a job? What is she going to do? Nothing, that's what. The other adults in our family. don't live anywhere near jobs, and cannot get work anyway, because their skin is dark and they are not tall enough. In the USA, children generally cannot work. Not sure where my toddlers and infants should seek recruitment?

Why does the government owe my family benefits? Because it is their RIGHTS! May I ask what country you are from?

[Janke]

Originally Posted by NoCmpassion

So SSDI and SSD are the same thing? Why does one thing have more than one name?

It seems I finally understand the difference between SSDI and SSI at least. It is not easy figuring these things out. And no one tells you about them.

My previous post was regards to when I got on disability, over a decade ago. Besides, you never heard of a family living in a crack hotel? That was our last home, actually. Now we have a new place.

I am not working, because I am disabled. Obviously. MY wife takes care of the kids. Working for $100 a week(if she were so lucky) wouldn't even cover child care. And we would lose way more benefits. She doesn't speak any English. There are no jobs around for hundreds of miles. 45 year olds are fighting to get $7 an hour at Micky D's around here. Where is she going to get a job? What is she going to do? Nothing, that's what. The other adults in our family. don't live anywhere near jobs, and cannot get work anyway, because their skin is dark and they are not tall enough. In the USA, children generally cannot work. Not sure where my toddlers and infants should seek recruitment?

Why does the government owe my family benefits? Because it is their RIGHTS! May I ask what country you are from?

Born and raised in the US and no one but my parents and my spouse and myself ever supported me.

Yes there are entitlement programs that can be paid to low income people who don't or won't or can't support themselves. But there are rules that have to be met. I find it odd that a family of 12 (some adults and some children) expect to be supported by a disabled adult who is unable to work who is on a welfare program (SSI). What was your wife's plan to support herself and her family before you came along? And these other dark short adults, what was their plan? If they can't find jobs in the town you choose to live in which is 100 miles away from any place that has jobs, it seems to me that all of you should move 100 miles or 500 miles or 1000 miles to those cities that have the jobs that these short dark people can do.

Why are the two (multiple, more than one, dual) names (titles, monikers, designations) for programs (laws, agendas, policies)? I could come up with even more - DIB, Title II, Title 2, T2, Title XVI, Title 16, T16, SSI/SSP. English language is full of synonyms.

Your wife could learn English. You have a pretty good command of the written word so you could teach her. Then some day she could find a better paying job and you could stay home with the kids and even later, she could make enough money that you no longer qualify for SSI and just stay on SSDI for the rest of your life and not be on public assistance, just the earned benefits of SSDI. I think that is the best part of being an American; freedom to succeed if you are willing to make the changes that will get you to your goals but still a safety net of welfare benefits for those who fall on temporary or long term hard times. Keeps them from starving and going homeless, but it is work, jobs, and education that will move your family ahead, not welfare.

Or you and your family could stay where you are, make no changes and continue to struggle.

You have Medicaid and may soon have Medicare. Do your children a favor and get periodic physical and mental exams. I am sure they want you to stay around and healthy for a long time. Then you may have a doctor who can agree to what you say is obvious.

[Jomar]

Originally Posted by NoCmpassion

I know this has been covered a million times. I am just inept to forum search engines.

Firstly, I get SSDI. JUst curious what the difference is between SSDI and SSD is?

Secondly, I get SSI. My SSDI is only $300 a month. SSI is another $300 a month. For a family of 12!!! Is it true, since I get SSI, I really do not get SSDI? It is considered just SSI? Say for example, I moved abroad. Will I still get the $300 SSDI? Or is that voided, because I get SSI?

Many more questions to come, and much feedback to add. Thank you dearly if you can be compassionate and helpful.

Let's start fresh with some more information from you.
Some of this basic info that will help the members give more helpful replies to you.

1- What state are you living in now?

2- what year did your SSI start?

3- what year did your SSDI start?

4- Do you keep those agencies updated on your current address?
(If not it may be why you don't have some information that we need to answer your questions)

There may be other questions about facts that members will have , I hope they ask them here so we have all the details in a single thread vs spread over 3 different threads.

[LIT LOVE]

Originally Posted by NoCmpassion

I read your link. But what office is this at? Each office has their own rules. This may apply at one office. It likely does not apply at the office we are going to. I have been to several offices inquiring about family benefits. It seems to be mostly a legend. Just like the mythical "back pay" you mention. I hear lots of fantastical stories about back pay, yet there is no such thing. Any SSA worker will tell you back pay does not exist. Also, I have been to an SS specialty attorney that said back pay only existed for a few cases in California in the 1970's. Since then? Nothing.

I wish there was something though. Most of my friends pay $2,000 a month for a bachelor pad. We pay all our expenses on a mere $600 a month for a family of 4 and are told we are "wealthy and arrogant" when we attempt to apply for other benefits like SNAP, which disabled families are not allowed to receive...

SSDI and SSI are federal programs. The rules apply to every SS office in the country.

Prior to my son turning 18, he received an additional benefit of 50% of my monthly benefit. Let's say my monthly check was $1500--he received an additional $750.

Regarding backpay, it is not a myth. Both my son and I (as well as many other NT members) received several years of backpay. It is incredibly common for people to receive it. Since you received your first check a "week after applying", obviously you would not be entitled to any backpay for yourself. And in the post you wrote yesterday you mentioned your "son's account", so it sounds like at least one of your children is also receiving some type of benefit as well, so in all likelihood your children have already received all the benefits they were entitled to.

BTW, this post states you are a family of four. Previously you stated you had a wife and 3 children. In your first post you claimed to be supporting 12 people on $600.

A Continuing Disability Review is something that almost all SSI/SSDI recipients go through. It can happen as often as once a year, or as infrequently as every 7 years. It's either a short form or a longer one asking questions about your health, treatment, work status, etc.

It sounds like you're happy with the benefits you're currently receiving and managing well. It doesn't really matter that you become more knowledgeable about SSI and SSDI if you're clear that you're already receiving all the benefits you and your family are entitled to.

Best of luck to you.

[NoCmpassion]

Originally Posted by Jo*mar

Let's start fresh with some more information from you.
Some of this basic info that will help the members give more helpful replies to you.

1- What state are you living in now?

2- what year did your SSI start?

3- what year did your SSDI start?

4- Do you keep those agencies updated on your current address?
(If not it may be why you don't have some information that we need to answer your questions)

There may be other questions about facts that members will have , I hope they ask them here so we have all the details in a single thread vs spread over 3 different threads.

1. WA
2. 2002
3. 2002
4. That is the law. And they never send me anything important. Just 10 pages of what I already know, or that I get $50 more this month, or $50 less this month. You know, the typical over/under -payment letters they send out.