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Old 12-13-2011, 10:07 PM #1
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Default Appt. with Neurosurgeon Thursday

Hi all,

I'm having what I think may be my final followup session with my neurosurgeon this Thursday, and I have put together a list of questions, requests for tests, and concerns to bring up during my appt.

This appt. is supposed to be my final evaluation of my abilities before I return to work. My company is expecting me back in a couple weeks, and in their minds I will be returning to a 45 hour work week, of graphic design and computer work.

This is not even close to possible. I can't use my right hand, last two fingers are always numb, tingling and painful, along with the pain in my shoulder, levator muscle and scalene and traps. I can't sit at a computer for more then 15 mins let alone do anything with my hand. My fine motor skills are gone in my hand.

Mentally I am prepared for being done with my career as a graphic designer, and I am prepared to be retrained and look for other areas to work in, but I want to get my point across to my doctor and have the proper paperwork filled out.

I think I have TOS, and would like very much to be tested for that, and I also am having issues below my fusion (I'm fused C5, C6, C7) and my PT backs me up on this and wrote a letter to my neuro.

I'm looking for advice on how to bring up all these issues, how to get my concerns across that I'm not just looking for more time off work, I really have a lot of pain and problems and want answers and options.

Any advice on the approach I should take? Basically whatever he puts on my worker's comp functional abilities form dictates my future. I'm stressing myself out about the appt because of this.

Any suggestions or input is appreciated, I know lots of others have been through this before.

Thank you so much!!
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Hi Cath1,

You probably know my standard is Google: talk doctor pain

Maybe some variation on that?
talk doctor disability
talk doctor workers comp (wc gets you hits about toilets )
talk doctor return to work

Get creative with search criteria; this is a bit different than I'm used to.

He should be able to, at the least, write you a note detailing limits of what you can/not do.

Also, something in the FMLA (Family Medical Leave Act) may be able to help (or ask the doc about that possibility).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_...ve_Act_of_1993
(This is an informational starting point only - google: FMLA for much more)

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Hi Cath1,

You probably know my standard is Google: talk doctor pain

Maybe some variation on that?
talk doctor disability
talk doctor workers comp (wc gets you hits about toilets )
talk doctor return to work

Get creative with search criteria; this is a bit different than I'm used to.

He should be able to, at the least, write you a note detailing limits of what you can/not do.

Also, something in the FMLA (Family Medical Leave Act) may be able to help (or ask the doc about that possibility).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_...ve_Act_of_1993
(This is an informational starting point only - google: FMLA for much more)

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Thank you!!! I will start googling and reading right now. I do hope he at least puts a detailed list of restrictions.

Hoping everything goes well tomorrow.
Fingers and toes are crossed!!
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How did you make out at the dr.? I think I sent you a message on a different thread about my dr appt
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How did you make out at the dr.? I think I sent you a message on a different thread about my dr appt
Not so great. He's really pushing for me to have a second surgery on my ulnar nerve, saying its a matter of when, not if. He's unsure what is giving me so much shoulder pain, thinks that is muscle related and a separate issue. Gave me an appt for another MRI on my thoracic outlet area (which is just to humor me since he doesn't believe in TOS, but will give me testing anyway.) also gave me an extension on physiotherapy for another 3 months.

As for my career, I'm done. He wrote that it is his belief that I will never return to work as a graphic designer. Will re-evaluate for any other type of work in march 2012.

I knew I couldn't do my job, but I don't want another surgery. He feels my hand has a lot of nerve damage and neuropathy, and think surgery could prevent it from worsening or risking muscle wasting of my hand. I'm thinking about it, but haven't decided yet.

I contacted my boss and told him this, and he was a total jerk to me, said he thinks I have a hereditary condition and doesn't think I should be on workers comp, wants to save his insurance premiums obviously. I am so mad at him, I was his assistant (he's the VP of our company) for 10 years, I made him look good from behind the scenes with no glory and this is how he repays me.... Grrrrrr. Anyway, I have proof it's from work and ergonomics, so he can shut it.

I'm angry and frustrated. I will check the other thread for what you wrote about your appt. I hope you had better news then me.

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Wink Oh :(

Sorry that you made out so poorly. I think having the thoracic MRI is a good idea. In some respects I would like one also. Not having one there or lower back at this point.

There are other tests for the TOS. They can do an EMG to see if that region is impinged. (The vascular surgeon that I saw looked at the EMG from a year ago and decided I did not have TOS. May ask for a new one. The PT says that I have some of the symptoms of TOS.)

Glad your PT was extended for another 3 months. From what I have read surgery does not really help the TOS or RSD and that it can make the situation worse. I have also read that you should not use ice.

I'm so sorry to hear that your fine motor skills have been so disabling and destroyed your career as a graphic designer. Have you thought about a 2nd opinion or going to a hand specialist to figure out the cause of the nerve damage and neuropathy in your hands? (I have been to a hand specialist and a vascular surgeon. Still looking for answers) Is it the NS that gave you all of this information?

Sorry that your boss was such a jerk. Glad you have the proof that you need. That is always helpful.

Right there with you and feeling angry and frustrated too. Feel free to vent anytime you want. Too bad we weren't closer.

I will write a list of questions and call the Vascular Surgeon back so that all of my questions are answered. My symptoms are bilateral which also tends to be RSD rather than TOS. I also have significant OA which causes some pain and swelling in the hands and joints. My hands, fingers and feet and toes can be burning hot and red or ice cold and or purple. It hurts to walk at times and have issues completing certain tasks with my hands. My left shoulder area is very tight and don't have the ROM. Never a dull moment. As far as my neck is concerned I have pretty good ROM (I think) but still get some muscle spasms that are frustrating.

Sorry for my rambling.
Have a painless day. Hopefully the weather will cooperate and stay somewhat warm and the snow will stay away.
On a positive note, my son is home from college. SO now I have extra muscle home if it should snow for at least 6 weeks.
Be well. Gail
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As for my career, I'm done.
Hi Cathie,

I've sat here and tried three.... now FOUR times to say something, but I just keep rambling and getting downright maudlin. I know firsthand the loss of a creative career, and it just plain... [draws liquid out with the mouth]s. Maybe that's enough. Creativity is not just in your hands; it's in your mind, your heart, and your soul. It cannot be lost entirely or gotten away from.

Your boss can perch on a pencil. Don't let him or the surgeon bully you. You need answers/information/more opinions in order to make intelligent informed decisions regarding any more surgery and your life in general from here on, and you're entitled to get them.

The anger, pain, and frustration.... USE them!

Illegitimi non carborundum!

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you go DOC!

don't stop!

please!

i'm with you!



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Hi Cathie,

I've sat here and tried three.... now FOUR times to say something, but I just keep rambling and getting downright maudlin. I know firsthand the loss of a creative career, and it just plain... [draws liquid out with the mouth]s. Maybe that's enough. Creativity is not just in your hands; it's in your mind, your heart, and your soul. It cannot be lost entirely or gotten away from.

Your boss can perch on a pencil. Don't let him or the surgeon bully you. You need answers/information/more opinions in order to make intelligent informed decisions regarding any more surgery and your life in general from here on, and you're entitled to get them.

The anger, pain, and frustration.... USE them!

Illegitimi non carborundum!

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Hi Doc,

Anger, pain and frustration are EXACTLY what I feel. You are one of the few people that understands that loosing my fine motor skills in my hand is like loosing a piece of myself. You're right, creative minds can't just be 'shut off'... I've been searching for ways to continue being creative without using my hand. I miss drawing, painting and designing so bad. Probably why I'm so angry with my boss, he doesn't understand I'm not trying to get out of work, I"m loosing what I love to do most in life. Not just my income source, but my hobbies and creative outlet in life.

I'm trying to remain positive through this, but it sure ****** me off when somebody belittles what we go through without understanding the truth. Maybe I was meant to learn the truth about his personality and maybe that job wasn't healthy for me (mentally as well as physically). All things happen for a reason, so maybe there is another door that will open as a result of this one closing.

Thank you for understanding... may I ask what was your profession?
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Wink Hi Cathie

I understand your pain. Dealing with the lose of your job and part of yourself is heart wrenching. I am fearful of that also. There are times that my feet hurt so much I can't walk. How am I going to drive and walk around a classroom. SO far it has been tolerable. I am still trying to find someone knowledgeable with the RSD so that it does not progress. I read that during the first 3 months in stage 1 is the most important. My neck was fine after the surgery and these issues came after the car accident. i know that your issues never resolved them self since the surgery.

I hope that you are able to enjoy this holiday season despite the problems you are having.
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