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Old 09-07-2012, 11:10 PM #1
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Anything less than 8mm AP canal diameter is termed absolute stenosis and is definitely potentially surgical. You should be following up ASAP with a spine ortho or neurosurgeon (not necessarily because you need surgery; but you are in the ballpark)!

Oh, and you don't have to worry about a chiropractor munching you. Absolute stenosis is a contraindication to manipulation.

Leesa....fractured sternum....really??? Never heard of such a thing from manipulation. Fractured rib here and there on rare occasion. Oh, FYI....Neurosurgeon and orthopedic surgeon referrals to me made up 50% of my practice so there is not resolute agreement with the ole goat you went to. And yes, we do have access to MRI....I ordered hundreds over 20+ years of practice. And one last thought...it wasn't a chiropractor that took me out of practice and disabled me; it was an orthopedic surgeon
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Can you please offer a few examples of conservative methods? I appreciate it !

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Let me see if I can help in layman's language:

At C3-4 & C4-5 you have "drying out" of the discs (dessication) which means that the discs tend to flatten out and that makes them bulge and sometimes herniate. That also makes them push on nerves and that HURTS. Everyone has this, it's just some of us get it earlier than others.

At C3-4 you also have bone spurs which causes moderate narrowing of the neural foramen. The foramen is the hole which the nerves go thru to the spinal cord.

At C4-5 you have bone spurs which causes minimal neural narrowing of the neural foramen.

At C5-6 you have a herniation of the disc with compression of the thecal sac. The thecal sac is the membrane of dura matter that surrounds the spinal cord & the cauda equina. The thecal sac is filled with cerebral spiinal fluid. The disc also compresses the spinal cord resulting in spinal stenosis with the saggital diameter of the spinal canal being narrowed to approximately 5mm. The disc protrusion results in moderate to severe lateral recess and and foraminal stenosis (narrowing) which might result in right C6 radiculopathy (radiating pain).

What kind of symptoms are you having, i.e numbness, tingling, etc? From what I can tell (and I'M NO DOCTOR) I don't think you'd need surgery, but I would certainly get more than one opinion.

I think it's AWFUL that you have to wait that long just for an appointment! Our health system is screwed up for sure, but it's nothing like that! We can go to whomever we want, and all we have to do is call someone and get in within a matter of perhaps a 3-4 week period. But PLEASE if it's at ALL possible, make sure you get more than one opinion. And try ALL conservative methods before opting for surgery because surgery will NOT relieve all your pain. Surgery is ONLY for mechanical problems. The vast majority of times you will end up with the same pain or worse after surgery! I've had 3 spinal surgeries (one was a spinal cord stimulator implant) the other 2 were open spinal surgeries and I'm in worse shape now than before. In fact, I'm disabled now. So try every thing you can before undergoing surgery.

Best of luck and God bless. Please let us know what happens, ok? We really care here! Hugs, Lee
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Can you please offer a few examples of conservative methods? I appreciate it !
Physical therapy – Exercise to strengthen the neck muscles
Hot or cold therapy – Heat pads to increase circulation or cold pads to reduce swelling
Pain medicine – Over-the-counter drugs like acetaminophen or ibuprofen, as well as prescription pain killers
Anti-inflammatory injections – Cortisone or steroidal solutions to numb pain
Behavior modification – Avoiding activity that might exacerbate neck herniated disc symptoms
Chiropractic therapy – Including traction or non-surgical spinal decompression therapy
Acupuncture, massage, cervical pillows
cervical herniated disc pain deteriorates significantly after months of conservative treatment at that time you may want to consider surgery.
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