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11-10-2012, 08:31 PM | #11 | ||
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Then there are extremist, on both sides, with the owner of Quackwatch being a psychologist (think he knows much about manual medicine? I don't know, I'm just say'in) and on the other side, the "straights" who are a group within chiropractic who think all disease can be cured by an "adjustment." Both are whacked, in my humble opinion and neither have performed controlled peer-reviewed papers on the subject, at least to my knowlege! And I am not sure I agree with the statement that a paper from a D.C. is biased while a paper from an M.D. is not. Junk science knows no ideological or academic boundries. The power of a paper lies in it's research design, whether it's a clincial trial, review or meta-analysis, controlled or not, blinded or not, intrinsic and extrinsic biases and so forth. So I think you would agree that a series of well constructed research papers whose results consistently are in agreement are probably more reliable than anyone's web page opinion, no matter who owns it! As far as chiropractors publishing mostly positive literature about itself, I suppose that's sometimes true but you could say that about any organized body of knowlege (Big Pharm). BTW, one of the major contributors to the Quackwatch site was from a group of chiropractors called NACM (National Association of Chiropractic Medicine), who was harder on it's own profession than just about anyone. Right or wrong, they bashed the living he** out of chiropractic. So in short, I think we agree.....right?! |
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11-10-2012, 08:58 PM | #12 | ||
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Risk of Vertebrobasilar Stroke and Chiropractic CareEmbarrasing, I know! Could this mean that people were more likely to suffer a stroke after seeing their PCP than seeing a chiropractor? Wow....really? |
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11-12-2012, 01:29 PM | #13 | |||
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I have done my own homework, and IMO, chiropractic is still pseudo-science/quackery, and I will not allow a chiropractor to come anywhere near my spine or any other part of me. Doc
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Dr. Zachary Smith Oh, the pain... THE PAIN... Dr. Smith is NOT a medical doctor. He was a character from LOST IN SPACE. All opinions expressed are my own. For medical advice/opinion, consult your doctor. |
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11-12-2012, 03:01 PM | #14 | ||
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That suit was to get the AMA off of the backs of the chiropractors as they were instituting an illegal boycott of the the profession. It was not to validate efficacy and outcomes of manipulation. That would come later and since then, there has been almost 3 decades of research to that end (you can't find what your not looking for) since that suit ended! And I hate to tell you but Wilks, a chiropractor, won the suit spurring a plethora of ensuing research (by MD's, PhD's, DC's, etc) validating manipulation and opened up open referals between the two profession that benefited everyone, that once existed before the AMA boycott. Look Doc, no one is going to force a quackerpractor on you or anyone else and I could certainly tell you about a lot of unbelieveable crazy crap I've seen them do but let's at least be accurate in our degradation and trashing of a profession! |
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11-20-2012, 11:05 AM | #15 | ||
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Indication: Numbness of legs
Technique: MRI lumbar spine with sagittal and axial T1 and T2 weighted images, postcontrast sagittal and axial T1-weighted images. Contrast: 11 mL Multihance IV. Findings: Alignment is near-anatomic. Vertebral body and disk heights relatively preserved. No suspicious focal T1 dark marrow lesions. Small Schmorl's nodes are noted at some levels for example superior endplate L3. No significant compromise of the canal or neural foramina at any level. Distal cord and conus is within normal limits position T12/L1 and roots of cauda equina appear within normal limits. Probable nerve root sheath cyst noted along the extraforaminal S1 nerve root and to a lesser extent S2 nerve roots more proximal, not uncommonly seen. No abnormal enhancement cord, cauda equina, or coverings. Impression: Unremarkable MRI lumbar spine except for probable nerve root sheath cysts associated with right S1 greater than S2 nerve roots, not uncommonly seen. No explanation for bilateral lower extremity numbness. |
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11-20-2012, 11:53 PM | #16 | ||
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I assume that all has been exhausted looking for metabolic causes? At this point, if all has been explored, it may be time to go fishing for the outlires. From what I am reading, your issues are more sensory than they are inclusive of motor involvement so less common neurodiagnostic tests like DSSEP's (derma somatasensonsory evoked potentials) do tests the sensory portion of the nervous system and may be worthy of persuing should your profile warrent it. It is possible that your symptoms could be coming from higher up and probably should now be considered but I wouldn't put a lot of stock in that direction... Good luck! |
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