Was it the same chiro and same PT the whole time?

If you weren't seeing any kind of improvement in a month or so, then they may not be skilled enough to be helpful at all.
If I'm not seeing any improvement or pain reduction w/PT or chiro, I search out a new and more advanced therapy person.

Did the PT or chiro do their own full evaluation or just go by the drs dx/rx?
(all chiros are not bad - there are some very good ones to be found IMO)
Just as bad drs of any kind can be found as has been mentioned also.

If your pain and sx are that bad, the dr should have Rx'd a full MRI since you have upper and lower sx...

Did you request a copy of the MRI report to be sent to you, that way you can get if before seeing the dr for follow up, and look it over?

was it c spine only or was spine & lumbar included?

I see your ct you have some stenosis and small heriations and bone spurs going on ---im still wanting to more details on your current symptoms any numbness or pain going down arm if so is it on right or left, pain in shoulder or traps?? You having any problems with legs etc..?

I have heard that you can help a bulging disc or herniated disc with pt or chiro. But at what point would you give up? I mean there must be a "give up" point...for lack of a better term. How long does a Dr let it go before they decide "OK, enough is enough, this is obviously not going to fix itself".

Anyone experience this or have or are currently going through this? I have been going to chiro 3-5 times a week for 8 1/2 months and not a bit better, some days worse actually! I did pt at the beginning but stopped because it made my pain worse too!

Any advice?

I would not go to a chiropracter without clearence from a neurologist. I tried that a time or two with my GP's suggestion. It made my neck worse. If you have had no response thats good, quit now and get another option. Herniated disks can get worse, so see a good neurologist or neurosurgeon for MRI. I wish you all the best. ginnie

I have seen an neurosurgeon and he was a total jerk! I was sitting in his office, looking at a copy of my ct results (c5-t1 all have something, or so it says in the report) and he looked at me and said "your ct is normal" I don't see anything wrong with your neck...once I started to cry from frustration he ordered and mri...lets hope it shows more!

I hear you... my first neuro surgeon was a jerk too. I actually waved bye bye to him and walked out, and yep I had an attitude! It took a bit to find those specialists who knew what they were doing. Don't give up about neurologists, they arn't all that way. My second surgeon was awsome, and had the bed side manners not many have. Keep your chin up, and seek another specialist. I also had trouble with a pain specialist. I interviewed four new ones. Now my team is great, and I am grateful I made the effort to find them. ginnie

I agree with Ginnie about Chiros! Do NOT go to a chiro without the okay from the Neurosurgeon! You could cause permanent nerve damage or even end up paralyzed! I've had 2 different neurosurgeons tell me that by going to a chiro, I could end up paralyzed by being manipulated, and it was just for ME -- it was ANY spinal patient! So be very very careful!!

And yes, Neuros can be TOTAL creeps. After my 2nd surgery, and I wasn't getting any better, painwise, he had the audacity to say to me: "You can't have pain, I fixed you." How's THAT for arrogance??? In the meantime, I was sitting there in AGONY. What an idiot. After he took a 2nd look at the MRI, I dont' know what he saw, or if he was just trying to get RID of me, but he couldn't have been nicer -- he told me he'd do ANYTHING I wanted. Just ask. I was so stunned, I didn't know WHAT TO SAY! I was in the process of trying to get SS disability, since I could barely walk without assistance, and I asked him to write a letter to SS saying I couldn't work anymore --- and he did it immediately!!! I almost fell out of the chair.

So I think he was just trying to get rid of me. And he did -- I'll NEVER go back to that arrogant creep again-- i don't care if I'm bleeding to death. He's the one that disabled me in the first place, so why go back?

Keep looking for a decent doc. There ARE some around and I found a great one after this. Best of luck and God bless. Hugs, Lee

Hi Cali4nia,

If you dont mind what are your symptoms ?? I agree with Lee and Ginne everything said--- but im trying to see if there missing some kind of compression or stenosis --Im sorry I been busy latley if i missed something regarding MRI. I do think you know 100% when something not right-- after 8 plus months its apparent DOCS are missing something.

cali4nia,
I merged your most recent threads into this one, to simplify by having replies & info together in a single thread.