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JB63 10-25-2011 09:19 AM

Huge fan of the patches. I have seen docs order the gel in a tube for those whose insurance will not pay.

performer84 12-26-2011 08:30 PM

Hi all- new in town here!
I have these patches now thanks to finally being seen by a PM team. I originally had a Barrett's Procedure (MCL reconstruction in a complex way) on my left knee in Feb 2010. As it took quite a while to get to the bottom of my knee condition (1 year in total and 18 months after the original accident and me procrastinating on it) i was standing incorrectly to ease the pressure.
Long story short it has caused some nerve damage in the lower left lumbar region. I have a wonderful PM consultant now who has give me 'nerve' meds to try and he's actually give me the patches for the hypersensitivity left behind by my op. I have a random patch of numbness that has a fault line over the shin bone. It's like electricity to run your finger over it. As a performer i was struggling with little things like trying to do quick changes as fabric brushing over it would make me jump.
I have only been on a week and i feel like they are helping some to dull the 'the fault line'. The hope is that after a few months it will deaden it.

My question is- do they only come in a 5% strength and if so can i put two full patches on to cover a larger area? I also see some of you are using them for pain relief on your spine- if i have one on my leg, can i have one on my spine also for when the pills aren't enough?
Thank you all in advance!

Swimref 10-10-2012 12:03 PM

Lidocaine Patches and Canadian Pharmacies
 
My wife is successfully using liocaine or lidoderm 5% patches. However, they are not covered by her Medicare Part D drug plan. I have no problem getting prescriptions but cannot find a decent price in the US to buy them without insurance at a pharmacy.

Are any of you buying in Cananda and can you recommend a reputable pharmacy that you have experience with. A price for lidoderm patches woul also be appreciated if you have one.

Thanks - Swimref

Gracemary 10-11-2012 07:57 PM

I use the patches
 
Thy seem to work. But very very expensive. 4 boxes are around $800.00 dollars. Of course if u have a good insurance it is cheaper. Now I can only get generic it is not covered. I have about 10 envelopes left. Only use if I can't stand the pain.

avoice 10-12-2012 08:12 PM

lidodern patches
 
you can use up to three whole patches ask your dr for a 90 of theme three boxs for same deductible.

Leesa 10-13-2012 03:42 PM

Gosh, I didn't have ANY luck with these at all. I'd place them where I was supposed to, and no relief. :( I'd even use more than one, and still no relief. I have severe back pain, as well as severe sciatica -- I've had that for 26 years!!! I finally just quit using them cause they just didn't work. :(
I was on some oral meds along with the patches and I still didn't get the relief.

Now I'm just on oral meds, but the doc found a combo that works great for me. I'm on Opana ER plus Lyrica, Topamax and Cymbalta and I have almost NO pain -- and after 26 years, this is like winning the lottery! :D

Best of luck all. I wish you all NO PAIN! God bless. Hugs, Lee :)

doccarolyn 10-27-2012 11:39 PM

Lidoderm patches
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Woody (Post 15219)
These patches were made for shingles pain, my pain management doc turned me on to them for S1 related foot pain & calf cramping. I've been using them for minor to severe muscle cramps, they helped me! When my scar-tissue bothers me in the L5-S1 I put half a patch on, numbs it right out. Your Doc will have to write a script for them, they cost $120. a box of 30, my co-payment was 10 bucks.
Just wanted to pass this on, I've been a spinie for 10 years now an been visiting BT1 since 1997, great info that doc's don't want you to know...

Does anybody know what there made from-he-hee? Ric

for me, they only work for certain types of pain- others my tens unit which my insurance company allowed me to buy rather than rent helpps

karma5050 11-07-2012 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Muddin' Mama (Post 15600)
All I know is that they're colder than hell when applied, so warming them up somewhere (like sitting on the unopened package for 5 minutes), works really well.

I was prescribed the Lidoderm patches originally for the bone harvesting site, but have used them for my continued low back pain under many circumstances with some relief. There's a ton of them per box & I got 4 boxes, so the supply is almost endless. :D

You are just the person I need to speak with. Can you please get a hold of me. **
Thanks

baconpockets 12-03-2012 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by longdogs4ever (Post 16862)
Are the lidoderm patches narcotic? If they are I dont think I can ask for them. My doc will not prescribe narcs, and I have no idea why.


Lidocaine is a topical anesthetic, non narcotic, even though it has "caine" in the name, it's nothing that will cause any sort of side effects associated with cocaine or other controlled substances.

mrsD 12-03-2012 10:52 AM

Lidocaine is a sodium channel blocking agent.

It stops nerve impulses and this how it works to numb pain.

I have had huge success with these patches over the years.

What does happen however, is that some insurances will not pay for them, unless you have a prior diagnosis of shingles.

But then if you are denied, your doctor can appeal that with medical need by fax to your carrier. It might work in your favor.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16178759

One needs to be patient with these patches as they don't work instantly...it may be a day 2 or 3 days to show benefit.
Also you have to place them carefully. I find looking at an anatomy book with nerve pathways, helps. Putting them on the endpoints of pain, works less, than on the pathway of the nerve axon.

I place 1/2 patch on the tops of my feet therefore for burning foot pain. 1/2 patch behind the knee sometimes, and when I had the terrible MP neuropathy I used 1/2 patch in 2 areas at the top of the thigh... in 2 weeks the nerve stopped firing, and I was in a remission! (lateral femoral nerve).

I think doctors who deny this potential treatment do so because they don't understand it or how to effect success with it.


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