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Old 02-20-2015, 05:39 PM #1
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Default Trying to figure out what symptoms are from my herniated disks vs my neuropathy

I started having shooting shoulder pains over the summer and some autonomic problems. I thought it was due to too much weight lifting and pushups so I took some time off from working out but the pain just stayed and eventually started shooting into my elbows and hands. My traps would spasm everyone in a while and then it would resolve in a day. Then in September I woke up and could not move my neck. My traps, shoulders, and neck muscles were in excruciating rock hard spasm. It is 6 months later and I was supposed to be healed a long time ago from the disk herniations. I'm not. My arms are weak. My shoulders feel dislocated and my elbows feel like I have capital tunnel syndrome. Both hands are shaky and I can't raise my arms overhead.

My MRI shows:
c5-6 central disc herniation resulting in flattening of the ventral aspect of the cord.
c6-7 left paracentral disc herniation resulting in deformity of thecal sac.
I also have straightening of the normal lordosis.

I am trying to figure out more about these results. I don't know what that means and if it can explain what is going on.

1 orthopedist said "no your symptoms shouldn't be so bilateral.
Another said, "I think I can see how this is happening to you"
A spine surgeon said "this is normal degeneration for people who have arthritis and disk disease and it shouldn't be causing these problems and that most people wouldn't even feel this. It is something else"
3 neurologists just don't really have any comment on this and just refer me to spine docs or physiatrists.
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if your spinal surgeon suspect something, what else does he think it is? I still would think those herniated disk is significant enough, could it be caused by your weightlifting, possibly. do you have arthiritis?
i think its your herniated disks though, because your neck was stiff, and your arms were in pain. i think you should get a second opinion, someone who specializes in spine issues.
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You could have the c spine issues as well as possibly Thoracic outlet syndrome.TOS for short.. We had quite a few weightlifters on our TOS forum..
Have you been to the physiatrist or had any expert PT?

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http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread125577.html
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread84.html
and if those seem to fit perhaps some TOS specialists might be best - They should be able to sort out any c spine issues from any TOS sx.
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread135.html

Many drs only know a limited amount about TOS and usually have a biased opinion not based on full knowledge. They may say they know of it but...
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if your spinal surgeon suspect something, what else does he think it is? I still would think those herniated disk is significant enough, could it be caused by your weightlifting, possibly. do you have arthiritis?
i think its your herniated disks though, because your neck was stiff, and your arms were in pain. i think you should get a second opinion, someone who specializes in spine issues.
I actually did go to a neurosurgeon at Columbia/New York Pres. and he just suspect that it is something autoimmune. He was more of a talker than a listener though. I think I probably do have something autoimmune going on, but this might be a separate issue. I am going to talk to my neurologist to see if he thinks I should speak to another spine specialist. I didn't get to speak with him much about my neck. Most of the appointment after being diagnosed with small fiber neuropathy was focused on finding causes (which he hasn't found).
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You could have the c spine issues as well as possibly Thoracic outlet syndrome.TOS for short.. We had quite a few weightlifters on our TOS forum..
Have you been to the physiatrist or had any expert PT?

Trigger point & PT info
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread125577.html
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread84.html
and if those seem to fit perhaps some TOS specialists might be best - They should be able to sort out any c spine issues from any TOS sx.
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread135.html

Many drs only know a limited amount about TOS and usually have a biased opinion not based on full knowledge. They may say they know of it but...
I have been to a 2 local orthopedists, who have differing opinions. One just wants me to deal with neurology and doesn't like my symptoms. The other feels that due to the central flattening it definitely could be in both sides and shoulders and clavicle.
I have not been to a top notch physiatrist though. I am definitely going to though, because this is so much more than neuropathy. Most of my upper body problems are coming from my neck. It almost seems like my neck threw my whole body into autonomic dysfunction and small fiber neuropathy.
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