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caroline2 06-15-2015 08:48 PM

Aunt Audrey, I don't know of any dangereous side effects with Prolo,,,I personally don't know any. And granted, it doesn't work for everyone, and could be one needs more than 1 session of these. That's how it is with the synvisc types, usually 3 visits to MD. Talk about side effects, I live with all the side effects from hip replacement, oh brother....prolo is a breeze and if it helps, a bigger breeze. Be well. I hope if and when I go for PRP I can give a report....if and when I go.

The sports med doc who did my shoulder hit 8 areas on my shoulder and I got 3 yrs of relief and that was dextrose.

Reading a couple reviews out of 1000's that possibly have gotten prolo work and believing it's no good. I would want to learn more and keep my mind open more before assuming it doesn't work. Ok....that's it. I went with 3 people who had good results with hip replacements and the surgeon, and believed them and look where I am. I did not go on all the replacement groups and read sooo many negative reports. Probably a good thing I didn't or I would have been a real basket case going into the surgery....

kiwi33 06-16-2015 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by caroline2 (Post 1148598)
The sports med doc who did my shoulder hit 8 areas on my shoulder and I got 3 yrs of relief and that was dextrose.

I am glad that dextrose helped with your shoulder.

Dextrose is just a chemical synonym for glucose (different words for the same thing).

Everybody has lots of glucose in their body - it has free access to all body tissues, including shoulders.

Glucose applied to your shoulder would rapidly diffuse out of your shoulder and join the glucose pool in the rest of your body.

caroline2 06-16-2015 01:29 PM

kiwi33, thanks for your comments. I just spoke to Dr. Joe Chun who does the Prolozone injections, and he uses ozone and adds dextrose to the injections...Of course, he says no guarantees and then he asked how old I am and I told him, and he said all old people have knee arthritis....but he would be willing, of course, to give me this work. Would you please give me your thoughts on Prolozone work...Here is a link:

www.michaelmooney.net/Prolozone.html
Prolozone Therapy, invented by Dr. Frank Shallenberger, actually grows new cartilage, ligament and tendon tissue, which can permanently stop pain and give a ...

Dr. Chun said his work is $200-300 per series depending on how much he does. He's an anestesologist (sp). There are doctors closer to me who do this work, but they charge even more. I have to drive a distance to Dr. Chun...but a friend said she will drive me.

I want to stay away from any knee surgery...I can bend my knees, walking is limited than ever before now and I'm not going to get any younger. Thanks for any input you have. C

kiwi33 06-16-2015 10:43 PM

Thanks for that link Caroline.

I am not as old as you but have begun to develop signs of OA, mainly in my shoulders.

I would be very cautious about ozone therapy. Ozone is a powerful oxidising agent so applying it to a joint which has been damaged through OA could lead to oxidative damage to that tissue, making things worse, not better. I can't see anything in PubMed which suggests otherwise.

A couple of other thoughts, all quotes taken from the link and links therein that you gave:

"An inexpensive medical miracle created by a genius functional medicine doctor can save people the expense and pain of having knee replacements and other such operations. [my emphases]"

In my experience evidence-based health professionals don't use words like "miracle" and "genius" very often though they are often used by comp/alt medicine people.

"[Dr Shallenberger] has authored numerous papers in the international peer reviewed literature on ozone therapy and oxygen utilization."

This is wrong. A PubMed search ("Shallenberger") shows 91 peer-reviewed papers, none of which relate to ozone therapy/oxygen utilization. Again, this concerns me - why would an alleged health professional make such a unsupported claim unless s/he was hoping to sell products? I note that Dr Shallenberger's Web site includes a "Shop" in which visitors are invited to buy various things.

Hope this helps.

caroline2 06-16-2015 10:55 PM

Thanks for your comments, I'm thinking more on this. As about Dr's with web sites with "shop"....I don't know a doctor on this planet who does not push a supp or drug one way or another. My preference with my health is to use alternative "drugs" vs conventional drugs, I use a couple and am glad for that, whether I had a lot to do with that or it has just been the way my life has gone. I'm not knocking drugs as I know many here use them, but I prefer not to use them if I can help it. I've been in the ER from damage of a drug years ago and that was my beginning of where I am today.

Michael Mooney who authored the article on Dr. Chun has other sites and primarily alternative in healing. I don't know much at all about Mooney...

I can say since on the powerful OPC I take, it's been like a miracle that I'm rid of allergies and sinus issues I had all my life prior to 1995. thanks again for your comments. food for thought.

caroline2 08-28-2015 04:45 PM

I still have not done PRP injections, money holds me back. I have joined another spine group, and the moderator said that he has done 2 hip replacements, 2 shoulders and the rehab people say that about 80% of hip replacement patients end up with leg differential issues, which knocks their body off alignment...that's what I deal with. Did this to be better and here I am.


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