David...where did you go? *grin Are you going to try to set this up? :hug:

Alffe............by doing it alone i mean without my companies organisational name.....corporate bodies...tend to loose sight of initiatives and would rather tick boxes that meet legislation, or government targets.

setting up a help group independently allows the group itself the power to lead and steer the group its own way.

this year alone over 35 males who have been referred to where i work, have all attempted suicide or self harmed.
support is there in the beginning, in the way of the Samaritans [prevention]..then after the event there is medication/therapy [post event support]....upon discharge from hospital or doctors....there is a void

a sort of it happened [but lets not discuss it again attitude]

and for the families and friends of these people there is no support or answers to their questions].

i would not be alone in this venture i have a good friend and colleague who is very keen to help facilitate such a self help/ support group of this nature.


Its just an idea at present,

David

And a terrific idea I think! I so get what you are saying corporate bodies!

And I suspect that attempters will talk about it if given someone who will listen without judging. It can be extremely difficult for those left behind to hear it if their loss is recent.

I hope others here will put in their "2 cents" and please keep me posted on your progress. :hug:

My 2 cents is just that it is a great idea and plan. If, at first, it has to be separated for need, fine. Maybe later you can bring everyone together to talk because there is so much pain on both sides. I'm thankful that you are trying to help, David. Our Alffe has alot of experience and wisdom to share, and I know that she will help as much as possible.

Bless you both,
reyn

(((reyn))).....I am the poster child of how not to do it. *grin. But thank you for your kind words. It took me 8 years before I talked about Michael killing himself and when I did, it was on the internet....to say that I didn't grieve properly is an understatement.

Now here I am, finally "getting it" and I'm old, tired, very very impatient.
You all must be so sick of hearing me tell you to talk about it but there is nothing more important, that I have learned over these many years, talking about what you are feeling...what ever it is ...will help you to heal............

Alffe....its partly because of your story ,,,,,i want to try and do this.....

and Reyn.....you are spot on....about dividing the group,,[i totally agree in the beginning it seems more appropriate to do this, and merge if appropriate at a later stage]

there is lots more thought to go in, as of yet.
i have a provisional community centre i can rent 1 day a month f0r a year.[so its feasible]

Thanks to you both for your support

David

David, please keep talking to us about it. I never, ever, thought about talking to anybody about my grandmother (and years later my 1st cousin and 3rd cousin, both young, very young, men) and was told more than once to please not try to talk about my own attempts to die by suicide.

Alffe is so right! Talk, keep talking! I'm just so thankful that I have my family/friends here who allow me to talk and who listen with compassionate, even empathetic, hearts,
reyn

Bump...missing both David and Reyn....:grouphug: