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01-26-2010, 05:45 PM | #1 | |||
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Now if I can just remember that!
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01-26-2010, 06:31 PM | #2 | |||
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There was an article in todays paper about Death, and how many family members don't want it mentioned in an obituary!! They will avoid the D word at all costs.....
They say things like...he was called home, crossed over, left us suddenly, passed over to his reward, returned home, went to sleep peacefully, budded on earth, blossomed in heaven, his spirit has soared off to a new adventure.....and the article suggests that if you feel strongly about this, you write your own obituary while you are still able. So maybe it isn't just suicide, but any death! Shakes head, climbs on pony, rides around boat....
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04-07-2014, 03:47 PM | #3 | |||
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looking for something else and found this....bump
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04-07-2014, 03:53 PM | #4 | |||
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"There is a cup of water sitting on a table. It is so full, it is rounded
at the top. One of two drops of water are added to the cup and it spills over. What caused the water to spill? We want to blame the last one or two drops, but in an empty cup it would not spill. It was not the water in the cup prior to the drops being added, because if left alone, it would not have spilled. It was a combination of all the drops of water in the cup that came before and the last one or two drops that caused the water to spill. In a person's life, the water in the cup is symbolic of all the hurt, pain, shame, humiliation, and loss not dealt with along the way. The last couple of drops symbolize the "trigger events", "the last straw", the event or situation that preceded the final act of taking one's own life. Often we want to blame the trigger event, but this does not make sense to us. Like the water, these events all by themselves would not cause someone to end their life. It is the combination of everything in that person's life not dealt with and the last one or two things that caused our loved ones to lose hope. For us, we must find a way to pour out the water along the way. This may be through talking it out, writing it out, sometimes yelling it out, whatever works for you. We must learn to deal with our pain in a way our loved ones could not. This analogy does not give us the concrete answer many of us are looking for but I know it makes sense for me and has been helpful for many survivors. It allowed me to let go of the search for "why", and to find a different way of dealing with my pain." ***This explanation came from Iris Bolton, the Executive Director of The Link Counseling Center in Atlanta, GA,
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04-07-2014, 08:27 PM | #5 | |||
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Hello my friend Alffe
Thoughts from back then, when darkness filled life space.... mind was crowded beyond capacity with trash wanted gone with, well, just me. Gotta tell ya, that cup which can overflow brought to mind a coping skill for making it through a day. Sharing it here - Another Day Mark56 20140407 Offer some to sup Never know when thirst comes One may feel as dust Life rush may be tympanic drums Just rest for a bit Take a load off Forget the fit Time is now, prayers aloft Simple care will congeal Hurried rush gone Emotions heal Overfull now half done Mind find peace Hurts away Tamed the beast Whew, another day. Hugs for the room and any who need to feel closure on another day successfully..... |
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04-08-2014, 09:45 AM | #6 | |||
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"tamed the beast"....so true Mark and talking about the beast always brings Pter to mind
Peters' words regarding suicidal thoughts As to the thoughts, I will be the first to say they are exhausting and, as I have said previously, they tire us to a point where we honestly believe suicide is the only solution. It is not. BEFRIEND and TALK. These thoughts are a part of you, for better or worse. I believe strongly in a physiological connection with suicidal thoughts. Our fear of the thought stimulates a negative physiological reaction which appears to give the negative thoughts enhanced power over us. Step back for a moment and place yourself in an imaginary situation. You see a child running into a busy roadway...you run quickly to save this child from oncoming cars...feel the reaction rising in your body. The adrenaline pounding throughout your body and brain. Now the rescue is over, you're alone, feel the exhaustion of your body and mind. You are rescuing yourself daily, hourly, every few minutes. Each thought evokes a physiological reaction with the end result being exhaustion. Befriend this thought. Treat it as you would the child who ran into the pathway of cars. Hold it, talk to it, teach it that there is another way to walk the roads of life. Post it here and allow others to comfort it. Do not be ashamed of it. What is it really but a thought that wants attention. Understand now, I did not say a PERSON who wants attention but a THOUGHT that wants attention from that person. It is the fight against the thought that tires us and makes us vulnerable to enactment of the thought. I cannot give you a reason to live. I can, however, take away your reason for dying. An untrained unaccepted thought is not justification for death ********************** Hugs for the room.
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05-13-2014, 10:02 AM | #7 | |||
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It is exhausting indeed!!!! This is from one who has been fighting these thoughts since I was very young (first serious attempt at suicide, I was 12). I still deal with them, it gets to be a habit of thinking when the mind decides there is no other way out of the pain we feel. You have to re-train the mind to see options and also do what Pter says here, it does help. Been away so long... for the room. Fighting again It can be like a roller coaster ride through life.....everyone has problems to deal with and personal pain, it's how we decide to deal with them
New job and have to work, I will try to be around some...
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