NeuroTalk Support Groups - Understanding Suicide

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- - Understanding Suicide (https://www.neurotalk.org/survivors-of-suicide/114801-understanding-suicide.html)

The Words of someone who is suicidal, often are few...jumbled or ,,,,not recognizable as hints to suicidal ideology/thought..................it is difficult to hear and far harder to comprehend..[more so if the teller is someone you care for]

BUT ACCEPTING WHAT THEY SAY IS VITAL.........................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPHvLtitxug&NR=1

There is a line in this that says ' He who saves one life saves the world entire'

ONE LIFE,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, we can all save ONE LIFE by listening

David

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Originally Posted by DMACK (Post 622502)

9. The common interpersonal act in suicide is communication of intention.
One of the most harmful myths about suicide is the notion that people who really want to kill themselves don't talk about it. Most people who commit suicide have told other people about their plans. Many have made previous suicidal gestures. Schneidman estimates that in at least 80 percent of completed suicides, the people provide verbal or behavioral clues that indicate clearly their lethal intentions.

HARD to comprehend but so true.............[ i told my dear wife 2 days before my act that i was REALLY STRUGGLING WITH LIFE !!!!!!]

David

Thank you for this thread David. I've read and reread it several times before responding to it. My reality is the only reality I know.

As the mother of a son who suicided I've lived with that guilt of not protecting him....even from himself. I feel that I should have known because we were so close. I know that his act was an impulsive one, drinking 1/2 a bottle of brandy makes one "couragous". I'm all done asking why because I'll never know for sure. He never let anyone know that he entertained those thoughts and I'm convinced that he just said F*** it.

I can't help but wonder if your wife feels such guilt for not really hearing you...not really listening to you. I'm so glad you are part of this forum family...
we all learn so much from you.:grouphug:

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Originally Posted by DMACK (Post 622582)

I loved EVERYBODY HURTS! Thank you.

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Originally Posted by DMACK (Post 622541)

When those you are talking too....don;t ......HEAR....!

TELL SOMENONE ELSE.

When those who hear what you are saying,.............. but don't UNDERSTAND

TELL SOMENONE ELSE.

NEVER STOP TALKING

David

I WISH I could follow my own advise about keep talking.... but...

I have quit talking about "THIS" to everyone around me... no one wants to hear this... they've told me they aren't equipped to help me...they really don't get what I am going through... It took me a while to realize this but I finally understand them...

The one person I do talk to... I am very blunt and honest with... is my Tdoc... She may not have any answers... but she listens and gets me.

:o:(
Abbie....

Abbie I am so glad you have a Tdoc who "gets it"...so many don't! Keep talking to her and remember that you have many people here that care about you and what you are going through. :grouphug:

Yesterday I phoned my crisis line (which is free through work ... for now)..... and the first question they asked was "are you suicidal".

I said yes. I was immediately transferred to a very compassionate, wise woman.

Today I met with a doctor.

My words... telling her of the events of my last 6 weeks caused her to cry. I was touched.

My meds are under control and I was prescribed something to help me sleep so that the intrusive "beat-me-up" thoughts don't continue to waken and beat me down.

Today, immediately after the doctor, I met with a therapist.

And I tell you all this because I want you to know that I am fighting that damned demon again and I am rejoicing in the fact that I know everything will be alright.

I am not alone.

thank you all! :grouphug:

WOW!!! What a wonderful thread, although hard, it's good too. I also love that song. It is one of my favorites and I listen to it a lot, especially when struggling, which I've been doing a lot of lately.

Addy, so happy you got help, and are still with us. This world is a better place for having you in it.

Abbie, you as well!!!!

I've had family members tell me as well, they can't help, they don't know how....they do what they can, and I have learned NOT to talk about it to them. Except when I can abjectly and intellectually to educate. ~sigh

When I was twelve and made my first attempt, I never said a word to anybody, not even after I survived it. No one knew why I was soooooo sick...having poisoined myself to the point of near death. I don't know......

There is another lure to suicide. When one has learned through life experience that there is an afterlife, and it's appeal is far greater than this world, well, it just becomes a greater temptation even when you know it is something that you should not do and that life, itself, is sacred....and there is a solution if one can just hang on and talk with someone....again, who can listen, understand, and really help.....