[Alffe]

Attempting to decipher precisely the thoughts of the suicide victim is much like trying to understand a foreign language by eavesdropping on a conversation. You can analyze the sounds and syllables all day long, but it's not likely you're going to understand much of what was said.

Based on the accounts of those who have attempted suicide and lived to tell about it, we know that the primary goal of a suicide is not to end life, but to end pain. People in the grips of a suicidal depression are battling an emotional agony that, to them, is so severe as to make dying a less objectionable alternative than living. One likened the feeling to "being at the bottom of a deep, dark hole and, rather than fighting to get out, wanting to burrow deeper into the bottom."

One of the more painful emotions felt by survivors comes when we try to empathize with the severity of this pain. We try to envision what we would have to feel to make the same choice, and when we imagine our loved one in that kind of pain it's almost too much to even consider.

---SOS A Handbook for Survivors of Suicide Author Jeffrey Jackson

[Addy]

thank you my friend.

[Alffe]

bumping up...

[Alffe]

"Our minds are quite manipulative particularly when cultivated by fear. Do not fear your suicidal thoughts. Do not be ashamed of them. Do not let them be a negative aspect of your being. Accept them..and post them here or talk openly about them to friends and family...

A suicidal thought is NOT initiated by the mind as a way to harm the person.
It is initiated by the mind as a misguided attempt to protect the person. By understanding its intent you will be able to redirect it with self esteem and self love in place...fear will not be able to stimulate the negative cascading psysiological affects that make so many of us tire to the point of accepting suicide as the solution."

~Pter

[barbo]

I know today is the anniversary of Michael's death. You know he is alive in our memories. A gun cannot silence a beautiful soul. Wrapping warm and loving arms around you and Michael and our whole family.

[Alffe]

Thank you Barbo, I know that you loved him too.

[Nina8448]

[QUOTE=Alffe;626549]Attempting to decipher precisely the thoughts of the suicide victim is much like trying to understand a foreign language by eavesdropping on a conversation. You can analyze the sounds and syllables all day long, but it's not likely you're going to understand much of what was said.

Based on the accounts of those who have attempted suicide and lived to tell about it, we know that the primary goal of a suicide is not to end life, but to end pain. People in the grips of a suicidal depression are battling an emotional agony that, to them, is so severe as to make dying a less objectionable alternative than living. One likened the feeling to "being at the bottom of a deep, dark hole and, rather than fighting to get out, wanting to burrow deeper into the bottom."

One of the more painful emotions felt by survivors comes when we try to empathize with the severity of this pain. We try to envision what we would have to feel to make the same choice, and when we imagine our loved one in that kind of pain it's almost too much to even consider.

---SOS A Handbook for Survivors of Suicide Author Jeffrey Jackson[/QUO

I recently had a love one commit suicide and a month later another loved one of mine tried to, but was not successful and they got the help they needed so desperately and now is doing a lot better. I listen so much more now and I've always been honest with them, even when I have to tell them that I don't know and couldn't imagine what they are going through physically and mentally. Them just knowing I want to help and being there to listen when they need me is helping so much.