Dear Katmae,

I am so sorry about your loss. I really don't know what to say but I can not imagine the pain you must have experienced and carry in your heart.

I do hope that your message to Dancing Lady will enlighten her.



Your post brings tears to my eyes.

Dear katmae,

As with Eva, no-one knows the pain as you do.

I am sorry for your loss and the stress of the attempts.

Dave.

Dear Dave
thank you I don't post much and talk about it even less as it is very hard for me to do so I was just wanting to show dancing lady that what she is thinking about does have a ripple affect on everyone that cares about her, thank you once again for your kind words and thoughts

I am sorry for your loss and your ongoing struggle to keep your other son alive. All I can say is from a person who wishes she was dead. Sometimes life is just too hard for us and this is the only way. Your son may have come to that conclusion. Just know he is now in a better place for him. Yes some people say suicide is selfish but like me I have no in person people to be worried about after my death. I know all of you are here supporting me on cyberspace but when I am going thru all of the painful tests there is no one there to drive to hold my hand to give me a hug to give me a shoulder to cry on. I lay in bed by myself and cry my eyes out. I have a pillow for comfort not a person. Never had and never will. So my suicide may be selfish but I am all I have.

I will no longer be posting here to you as I see you feel that know one care about you and all these post to you have proved that they do care you simply do not wish to see or hear that people do care and this is now making me very upset and mad so I will just say I wish you all the best and good bye

I understand cyber caring. I am upset about real life caring. Two different ways that are not connected.

My sweet dear soul
You are me
I understand
I really really
Understand
Cry to me
Lean on me
Cry with me
Till it just stops
Because this cookie
is amazed at the tears I have she'd
in my life time
Could be an ocean
I get you
You cannot do it
If you had nobody that
you are responsible for
even then I said
I will not abandon my children
Their father not in their life
And Christ walk his cross
To the end
I am holding onto you
Don't let go
Don't let go of me
Love
Me

Please stay
We need you
I need you
Please don't go
Love
Me

Dancinglady,

What would you have us say in response to your Posts? You know most of us do not agree with your stance on suicide ideation as a perceived solution to a potential endpoint and will Post to try to make you see positives. This cannot change, it is altruistic Human Nature to protect another.

Would you rather we say nothing, leaving you calling plaintively into the Ether? That would be cruel.

These Forums are skewed in the direction of those who are seriously suffering and seeking help and support, along with the kind hearted who stick around and give advice even after they find a balance, or relief.

As you have visited the Forums you must have noticed countless past Members who have no further need for the services and support provided. One can extrapolate that many, many of these former Members are now leading happy, balanced, productive lives with their conditions under control.

There are countless Groups, Social Groups, Church Groups covering every topic and hobby where one can find appropriate company and friendship in the Real World. While you are still active is the time to take advantage of these services.

You are in the early stages of a condition that can be controlled by meds and your own actions. I firmly believe you need to be open about your current state with a Psychologist to work through this.

Forgive me for asking this - and do not answer if you do not want to - but, in your current position, do you now regret the attitude of yourself and your former colleagues in ER to pain patients, in laughing at them?

Dave.

eva I am not leaving the group I just will not be talking to dancing lady any more she has made up her mind to what she wants and that is something I can not handle I will look for the rest of you in your post not this one is all