Thank you Lara..I know about depression following a heart attack...the problem here is that both of them have accepted that as the reason...the only reason for his depression. When I suggested to him, in a restaurant no less, that he was grieving the loss of a job, a job he loved...he teared up and shook his head. His wife, a dear woman, quickly said oh no, it's his heart attack....as if it's easier to accept depression when it's only caused by a physical problem. Depression is depression and I am so worried about him.

Severe depression is my main mental issue, but with manic spells. I think they call that Bipolar. It does take over, and that is when I do the Stinkin' Thinkin' about myself. I find myself wishing I could crawl back inside the black hole, which feels most safe at those times. I tend to always see the glass half empty. I need to get back into therapy, but I can only handle so many appts. per week! I'll get there.

{{{{{{{Lara and Alffe}}}}}} It's sad to hear how depressed your friends are, but I'm sure they know how much you care. Both of you make such a good friend to others, and I feel blessed to have you in my life!!

Leaving {{{{{big hugs}}}}} for the room!
~Kimmy

there is so many who have stinkin thinking

i hate it when i sitting in the pew to day and some one said smile it is not that bad.

Good morning cybil...I'd hate that too. How can anyone else really know how you are feeling?!! Big hugs...why so quiet?

I am bumping this up because I miss Kimmy and cybil_who and KELL, wonder how they are and where they went to......