Well alrighty then! I think we're all good about Wonder Threads. When someone is MIA for a day, a week, a month, those here pick up the slack, they really do.

And when I say or don't say something I should or shouldn't have, I welcome anyone to post to me individually to sort it out! If I hurt someone's feelings in some way, please do PM me and let me know! But I can't fix concerns if they're about me if someone doesn't let me know. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

Love and hugs for all.

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So how am i supose to appologize to Koala if i am asked to not reply to a pm? or reply to them at all .how am I able to abide the wishes of a mod when asked to not reply when i think the best thing is to not go off in seperate direction upset and hurt? how am i able to stay with in gudie lines and of not mentioning things said by a mod or admin. when ALL i want to do is some how be understood not mis understood. and i can very well see I AM the problem at this very moment! as my whole wonder post was mis understood my whole point was missed. I just need and want to make peace not matter how long it takes me because I know it was not my intent at all to hurt anyone or have anyone upset with me . am I out of guide lines now by trying to discuss this ?????????????? am I about to be banned???????

Not sure exactly what is going on around here BMW but I did want to leave you a hug and a reminder that there is no way you are responsible for all this.

i'm not sure what exactly this is about, since i am unaware of a mod or admin issue where you are concerned.

not discussing mod or admin issues would have to do if posts had to edited or removed or any disciplary action that may have had to be taken with a member. these questions need to be done by pm. not posted about on the forum. nor are sly remarks or inuedos about them.

i don't know anything about you being asked not to reply to a pm, unless that is a personal issue between you and another. everyone does have that right to ask for no pm's or close down their pm box.

i do hope you realize that no one in particular is the problem right now.

it seems to be a few things that have been here, not addressed and piling up.

gotta remember sweets, its like a big ever growing family. not everyone is going to get along all the time. brothers and sisters squable, but we still love and care about each other.

you have my email and phone number. i'll help out in anyway i can.

(((((((((BMW))))))))))

I have absolutely no idea what you are referring to but let me totally assure you, you have done nothing wrong


You are free to PM anyone at any time so not too sure who has told you you are not allowed to PM

please remember that there are only three mods of this SOS forum: me, curious and Jo55.

I am not sure what this is all about but again I can only assure you that I am unaware of any problems here, and if I need to be made aware of it, I am listening

please also know that people do NOT get banned here for asking questions or discussing things. In the two years NT has been around there have been hardly any bannings and then only after long and repeated attempts to resolve matters, always giving the member the opportunity to turn it around. Bannings only happen when members refuse to co-operate repeatedly

I really dont like to see these upsets playing out on the forums as then people who are not involved become agitated and withdraw.

so please could you PM me to let me know what is happening and why and I will try to help solve any problems

if you prefer to post here I would really just ask for care in how you respond so we dont generate even more upsets.

again I emphasize there are only three mods of SOS. Me, curious and Jo
all others posting here do so as members, not mods

I guess the best thing is to turn my p.m. back on because Yes i am the problem right now . and curious i sent you email this morning (from versetmb)

i just emailed you back. i wasn't home and just got it.

you can keep your box closed if you wish and just add me and cheri to help you figure this out...or we can email. what ever you feel is best for you.

Tina

you are NOT the problem

it seems from reading more posts here that there is a problem.

but precious BMW neither you nor anyone else is IT.

seems to me there is a lot of misunderstanding and maybe mixed feelings on things but please please please know that you are not a problem

my PM box is open and I am also here to try to help in any way I can. This forum is way too valuable to many as well as to me personally to see unresolved issues fester and cause pain

all I ask if anyone decides to post to this thread rather than PM me, is please be sensitive to others feelings when naming names.

For what it's worth I'd like to add to this discussion............

Suicide is.... has been, and always will be a difficult topic to discuss.

Suicide has three faces.........

1. The untimely death of a human being.
2. The suffering grief, and irreplaceable loss suffered by those who have lost A loved one, friend or acquaintance,colleague.
3. Those who personally survive the attempt/lure of Suicide.

I myself am face [3]......a Survivor of the attempt of Suicide, I know many of you on this forum are Face number [2] and because of your discussions ...face number[1] is very much present in this forum as well.

The things face[2] and face [3] have in common are more plentiful than you may think.

1. Because of their situation new friends [even old friends] colleagues, neighbours, and acquaintances, often don't know how to talk to them about their dilemma...so they often don't speak at all. Suicide is very deep and such a taboo subject that your only ever likely to get a listening ear by someone who has had a similar situation themselves. Externally to those who have experienced the trauma of Suicide, it remains a dirty word, a weakness, a cowards way out, a cruel trick, a desperate cry for help, a tragedy yes a TRADGERDY.

2. Another thing these two faces of Suicide have in common, is they are both alive. .
Together they have first hand knowledge and experience in Suicide. Both faces have a story to tell and explanations to give. They don't always agree with each other.. but their aim is ultimately PREVENTION OF MORE FACE [1's].

I myself have the belief that this forum is a GOD-SEND....as it has helped me to understand so much more about myself and help me to deal with the demons of my past and at times the present ones.

I realise that by mutually supporting others, i genuinely support myself to heal as well. There are times i want to be alone, so if i choose i can just browse around, yet i can always post if i want to. That's the great part about it , i can choose to do what i like.

I'M not phased by individual support posts, .........like has been already said......... friendships form.........thats life. I'M not bothered by trivia.............at times it makes me laugh...when inside i want to cry,,,,,,,,,

What i am trying to say is SUICIDE is such a complex issue that whatever it takes to keep more people alive then that's fine by me.

I know in my heart that when a new member hits this forum whether they be face 2, or, face 3 of SUICIDE.............this family rallies around with support..........

I understand some members may feel the Forum has become a little less focused on the main topic, but please lets never loose site that SUICIDE is an individual experience. Some prefer to support in other ways, some prefer the light hearted side of life, others the more serious side of the subject.
Either way there is room for every aspect of support in this forum..... its what makes it to me, so unique.

After all if their was a magic pill available for every human to take just once.. that would prevent permanently the threat of SUICIDE.

We would have no need for this forum anyway.

The adversity of Suicide,requires individuality of expression, and yes at times humour and generality it helps to maintain a reasonable form of stability for faces 2 and 3 of this wretched frailty called SUICIDE.


This is just my opinion, and is in no way written to dampen the opinions of
others..........it has be written with sincerity and respect for all.


David

Yes, Alffe. Tomorrow is the big opening of the new flower shop! Thank you very much!