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09-28-2008, 06:32 PM | #21 | |||
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Mutual support. I am not trying to break apart the friendships that have formed among you who have been here for so long. I am a relative newcomer to this forum and I know that. What I am trying to point out to you is that recently it has become painfully apparent to outsiders and new members that the support is not as forthcoming as it used to be. It has to be asked for, it is not freely given. I mentioned the new thread that was posted informing you of a new member who needed support. A few months ago that would not have been needed, it would have come natural to this forum. Something has changed, maybe it's just the time of year, maybe it's people are busy, whatever, but it's very obvious to me who has been here for awhile that this is not as cohesive a group anymore that something is wrong. I am sorry I opened the door but it needed to be said. We are a good group of people who need to be back together helping each other. I, for one, miss all of you. We don't need to be laughing and funny all the time, that's not what I am saying, but I don't feel like the cohesiveness is here anymore for whatever reason and I am sure I am not the only one who feels this way. As David said, suicide is a tragic event in anyone's life. It's not something you shake off easily. We come here to find a way to deal with it, not to come here to deal with "other stuff." I get way too much reality in my own life, what I need is to learn how to deal with the tragic realities. How do you deal. What comes next. I know we all have our own personalities and thank goodness for that because life would be boring, so please try to understand what I am so poorly trying to say...don't leave without trying to work through the reasons. This is an important forum. There are reasons why we are here. Thank you all for listening to me and again, I never meant to offend or hurt anyone. I also did not point fingers at anyone nor was it my intention for anyone to leave...my wish is for you all to step back and take a look at the forum. Could it use some improvement? If not, then I am seeing things that are not there. I will admit that I have been wrong, and will be wrong again. I am not always right....OMG! Flygirl wrong Yes, tis true...
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09-28-2008, 06:39 PM | #22 | |||
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I hope what I’m going to say makes sense. But I’m finding this whole thread quite disturbing. But first BMW, I’m so sorry what has happened and I hope things get sorted out.
But what has me disturbed is the comment about “individual” posts. Anyone who has lost a loved one to suicide or who has urges like I do knows that you tend to isolate yourself, withdraw, feel alone. But when I come here and see a thread started for me it reminds me that I’m not alone, someone really does care. True, sometimes I just hit the thanks button and can’t think what to say but most of the time it draws me out, makes me talk. Isn’t that what you’re supposed to do? You’re supposed to talk about it, relive it no matter how painful it is. It’s no good to internalize it. I know that and I try but it’s hard. But now, I don’t know anymore. I feel like I’ve lost my family here. I have no family left and I hope things turn around and get back to the way they were. I don’t know what happened here, I don’t know why people feel out of sorts but I need you, I need to know that we’re all in this together. Please. I wouldn't be here without you all, you've saved my butt so many times and no matter what happens I'll be eternally grateful.
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09-28-2008, 06:44 PM | #23 | |||
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Thank YOU so much for pointing that out to me! I needed to hear that!
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09-28-2008, 07:09 PM | #24 | |||
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Dear BJ
i'm going nowhere my dear friend and intend hanging arround for some time, and your point is a perfect description of the individuality of Suicide in all its faces. The sincere thread of '????? are you out there? is in itself a form of support. a reasuring call out to a friend. You are one reason i stayed arround here BJ because we share a commonality and your strenght has inspired me so much. David
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09-28-2008, 07:50 PM | #25 | |||
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There is a saying....don't fix what ain't broke. Maybe I am naive, but I wasn't aware there was a problem.
It seems that, though there may be bumps on the surface, that the purpose of this forum's existence is working as evidenced by the comments made by many. I may not get in here that often or have time to read or post as frequently as some...but it is nice to know that when I can or need to...it is here. I am grateful for each one of you, whether we have ever had direct interaction or not. Your words and stories have inspired, comforted and humbled me. |
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09-28-2008, 08:42 PM | #26 | |||
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Well I am not a regular poster of this particular forum I would like to share a couple of things with you that I have found related to my regular forum that I post to the bipolar forum.
I like being able to follow individuals threads....so that the history of their story is shared perhaps so that others can easily follow their progress as well. With so many different threads it is very hard to keep up especially for me with my bad memory. I know that we can do a search for members other posts...I do that to to get more information to beable to better know how to support someone. If they suffer with another ailment too it helps to put the picture together. So perhaps an intro sticky area at the top of the thread where people can post a bit about themselves and how they fit into the picture, that way new members can go and read abit about some of us to catch up and not feel so left out...not knowing everyones history and which side of the fence they are on or both...I don't know. Forums like this are invaluable. People share what they are comfortable sharing at the time. giving/Getting really personal information creates intimacy...which can be really uncomfortable for some....and forced for others. When you have forums like this we decide how close we get to people, and we get to be as open as we like. Some may find it too open and they may not be that comfortable with that. I don't know..... for example...I have a picture of myself and my twin in my avatar. I like letting people know who I am....maybe that makes me a bit naive...I don't know...I think it makes me feel more real. that is just me... anyway, jsut wanted to share some of what I was thinking. bizi
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09-28-2008, 08:51 PM | #27 | |||
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09-28-2008, 09:01 PM | #28 | |||
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09-28-2008, 09:29 PM | #29 | |||
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To add to Moss' saying... if it ain't broke-don't fix it, another saying my Grams use to say comes to mind. If it doesn't stink, don't stir it. LOL So, I am not going to stir it Just add my 2 cents
I haven't been here much myself this month... but looking over the posts I missed I truly do not see any problem here. When I first started lurking here in March, there were individual threads... there was obvious open support. THAT is what made me post here. I read the wonders, the off topic posts... but I also searched the threads that dealt with just suicide. I read and read... I SAW the connections, the caring, support and yes .. love here. That is why I posted my first thread When I posted, you all came to my rescue! Nothing has changed as far as I can see. True I came here that desperate night for support of my Dad's suicide, and nothing else. BUT, it was the "everything else" the love, caring and support on all aspects of our lives, be it a trip, a new baby, a new business, health issues, etc etc that kept me coming back. I will have to respectfully and kindly disagree, . I DO see the same loving support. When new members come, I see us ALL rallying beside them. The only reason there was a post "new member in need of support" is because chemar was kind enough share the link to a post .. that was posted in another forum.... I believe most, if not all of "us" followed the link, posted there, and we posted here as well. The support here is AMAZING. I am forever awed by how I came here exploding with the need to share with others who understood.... how I found that support... yet, so much more!
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09-28-2008, 10:19 PM | #30 | |||
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Bizi, I like the sticky Idea. Another forum I belong to has one titled
"Introduction" another has one called, "getting to know me" One doesn't have to share there, but can share their story if they like. I agree it would be easier for "lurkers" to see that we do truly understand their pain. When I was a lurker, it took me a great deal of time to do searches on individual stories. ((BMW)) I wasn't here to read your post, but I know you have a heart of gold. Therefore, I know you would never do anything intentional to hurt anyone. Keep posting, I need you
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