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((((BF))))...you are hurting, and I hear it as well. I wish I had some easy answers. But I don't. What you are going to walk through will not be easy. I have experienced some of it. I was in the middle of a slow suicide attempt right before and after my father died of lung cancer. I didn't just lose my father, I lost nearly everything. My life lay in shards around me. I had to give up a child I had raised for 7 years, who was like my own. The circumstances around the situation were very emotionally traumatic. My 17 year marriage was coming to an end. It was not something that I wanted. My father was dying of cancer, and I, along with my mother, were his caregiver. Although I have 5 brothers and sisters, my father and I were very close. Major decisions about his life and death were left up to me. I was also suffering from chronic pain which left me almost unable to function, and sleep at night. (major shoulder surgery). My best friend who was only 36, and had 3 small children was dying from breast cancer, and I was trying to help her. It all came crashing down when my father died, about a week before Christmas. We were left with nothing. My mother was cheated out of a 100,000 dollar life insurance policy, and left with a lot of debt from my fathers battle with the cancer. My ex skipped the state and left me with two teenagers to raise. We literally had nothing. My mother had to sell everything, at a time when we were both completely grief stricken, we had to give up everything else too. I am sorry this is getting long. My point is, there is a way. I had a 'mental breakdown' I did not even realize it at the time. My mother and I moved into an apartment together, with my children. My actions caused much grief between us at a time when we should have been supporting each other. I went from 135 pounds to 90. I thought I could just 'disappear this way.' We got help anyway we could. My mother is a true survivor. And, yes, in some ways, I did have her. Which is different from your situation. But you have something that I didn't have. I did not know that I needed help, much less how to ask for it. And nobody in my family did either. We are taught to 'suck it up' and deal with it. My mother and I had no way to support ourselves. She finally got some help from the VA, I got food stamps, and some small amount of medicaid for the children, and began the long battle for child support. My mother and I went to college together, with the help of loans, and other support systems. And we did make it. Within a year and a half we were working. I honestly don't know how I made it through all of that. I have some of the same problems that you do. But I did make it. And if I can, you can. We just have to keep trying and be diligent. According to the scales they like to use in psychology, all the stress factors that I went through during that period, should have killed me. But, here I am. And here you are. I am praying for you my friend. Please hang in there. There has to be an answer. Just keep putting one foot in front of the other, and trying. I'm sorry this was so long.
Mistiis Wow! You went through a hard period of time. Bless your heart. BF
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Old 11-14-2008, 03:03 PM #12
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Wow Mistiis...it's called surviving and if you can do it, BF can do it too. I'm so glad we are all talking about it. Hugs for the room.
Alffe Thank you. I don't want to become a drag to the group. My situation occurs,then lets up,then just when people are thinking they have helped me,I seem to go down again. Then I go up. My best time was in the Nineteen Nineties. Recently I've been on the down side for a long time. The last two years have been the down again period. BF
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Hey BF! Just popping in to say that I continue to keep you in my prayers and hope that things turn around for you soon. I truly believe that unless someone walks in your shoes, they cannot understand how you feel. Your Sister should be more compassionate in that she herself has MS. But, your'e right, OCD in itself is very misunderstood. Heck, we didn't even have a name for it until just a few yrs ago.

I suffer from a milder form of OCD, but I do remember as a child wondering why I did the things I did or why I had some of the thoughts I had. I was overjoyed when OCD came out of the closet, so to speak. I saw a therapist for a while, who also suffered from OCD and she helped me to feel that it wasn't my fault and that I couldn't help it. That, along w/medication, I feel like I am keeping it at bay, for the most part.

The most important thing I want to tell you is that no matter what you think others' are saying or thinking about you, YOU are just as important as everyone else and you are worthy of understanding and love. I hope you can find some answers to your housing and financial situation very soon. But, remember that you are totally worthy.

take care BF and don't give up hope.
DM Thank you. The OCD is very misunderstood. In a comedy TV program called Monk,the investigator has OCD. Howard Hughes had OCD,and they didn't know what was going on with him around the end of his life. He withdrew from everyone,and was scared of germs. You probably know all of this. BF
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((BF)) Firstly I need a new name to call you, as to me your name makes me kind of sad. You are NOT broken, you just have issues you are dealing with. It takes great courage to admit that to oneself and others. So until you give me a better name to call you, I think I will call your CouragousFriend

Secondly, we are all here because we are in pain. We are all here to break the silence and stigma associated with depression and suicide.. so no my friend, you are NOT saying too much. Keep talking, share anything and everything you want to!! One thing I love about this forum is the open support and knowing no matter what I say, I am safe and I will not be judge. I may not understand all that you are going through, but I do not judge you. I only wish to listen and offer help if I can. Everyone here is the same, we wont turn our back on you.

If I may ask, how long has it been since you have seen a therapist? I know you were going, and are going again next wed. I keep holding out hope that this could be a turning point for you. I am also wondering if there is anything in your state that could help you push along the paperwork to get you the help you need. Do you have a social worker?

I hope I do not offend you, but in order to try to understand the rift in your family I need to ask a question. Has your father ever told you, personally, not through other family members, that he doesn't wish to see you? You mention that you have no idea why he doesn't want to talk, does this mean you have never asked him right out? I only ask because I have found the only way to handle any problem, including family rifts and misunderstandings is to tackle them head on. If someone in my family didn't want to see me, I would move Heaven and Earth to find out why. Perhaps if you ask him straight out, you will at least have a true answer?

I continue to hold in my prayers. Keep posting, and let us know how your appointment goes Nikki
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((BF)) Firstly I need a new name to call you, as to me your name makes me kind of sad. You are NOT broken, you just have issues you are dealing with. It takes great courage to admit that to oneself and others. So until you give me a better name to call you, I think I will call your CouragousFriend

Secondly, we are all here because we are in pain. We are all here to break the silence and stigma associated with depression and suicide.. so no my friend, you are NOT saying too much. Keep talking, share anything and everything you want to!! One thing I love about this forum is the open support and knowing no matter what I say, I am safe and I will not be judge. I may not understand all that you are going through, but I do not judge you. I only wish to listen and offer help if I can. Everyone here is the same, we wont turn our back on you.

If I may ask, how long has it been since you have seen a therapist? I know you were going, and are going again next wed. I keep holding out hope that this could be a turning point for you. I am also wondering if there is anything in your state that could help you push along the paperwork to get you the help you need. Do you have a social worker?

I hope I do not offend you, but in order to try to understand the rift in your family I need to ask a question. Has your father ever told you, personally, not through other family members, that he doesn't wish to see you? You mention that you have no idea why he doesn't want to talk, does this mean you have never asked him right out? I only ask because I have found the only way to handle any problem, including family rifts and misunderstandings is to tackle them head on. If someone in my family didn't want to see me, I would move Heaven and Earth to find out why. Perhaps if you ask him straight out, you will at least have a true answer?

I continue to hold in my prayers. Keep posting, and let us know how your appointment goes Nikki
Hi Nik-Key I wanted to visit him about 3 months ago,and here's what I heard from him. I emailed him,and wanted to visit him,and he emailed me back that he doesn't want to be visited,and he want's to be by him self. He said something like that. I cannot remember. I emailed him again,and said he's sort of getting distant. He sent me a email saying he didn't know what my problem was but.... He took my hint wrong. I meant that he's sort of not around anymore. I mis him. He emailed me that he want's to be alone. I called him,and he blew up at me,and started tearing me to pieces with his words. I thought to myself that he hasn't fussed at me in a long time. He definitely doesn't want to see me.

This hurts me that he doesn't want to see me. I may not see him for the rest of his life. He's almost 89,and my sister say's he's frail. This is a mystery to me,and I don't understand his reaction. He does have a explosive temper if he lets it out. He had a stroke about eight years ago,but I've seen him since then. The only thing that I can think that has caused this,is my sisters conversations with him about me. I definitely realize that my sister doesn't like me,but my dad use to like me. He told me that he knows that I have many problems,deep problems,and gave me a few golf balls,and a putter,and then left. That was after his stroke,about four years ago. That's all that I know. BF
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Yes. They are all around. I don't like dust. I have these different kinds of air purifiers in all of my rooms. I have allergy attacks,sometimes with my anxiety attacks. Sometimes I cannot tell which one it is. BF
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BF, I'm so sorry your having such a bad time at this time. You will be included in the Olhipie's prayers. You try to get the rest that is so important when life is so stressed...look at me talking about getting rest and its almost 2am. My Honey just offered me a snuggle if I came to bed...guess I can't pass that one up!!

Again...our thoughts and prayers are going out for you!!

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Thank you David. With my financial situation,I hope that I can keep my Computer. I don't even know if I'll have cable,or satellite TV in the near future either. I hope to,but I don't know. One of the people with the government that I talked to on the telephone today said they don't know if I'll be able to have cable,or Satellite TV. My SSD hearing is in February. My sister said why don't you sell some of your hobby equipment. I wonder am I going to loose everything? I don't know. BF
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