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Old 04-11-2015, 02:25 AM #1
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Hi Good people.
I need info on draining a tarlov cyst as in

How long does the procdure take?
Is it painful in any way whilst it is being done?
And of course how long can I expect it to last?
And what are the after effects if it does not work, as in could I get awful headaches etc?

I live in Ireland and not many options here,

My Neurosurgeon told me over 6 weeks ago that they would not operate on it or drain it but that he would chat to me after the scan & yesterday he decided to drain it (Aspirate) and told me that I may get some relief or it could make matters worse and that I could also get awful headaches after it being drained and of course it can/will refill with spinal fluid.

Reason he has decided to do it is because the cyst is 7cm and it is trapping a nerve that has me crippled with pain that all of you are well aware in yourselves.

He told me that I should seek a second opinion with another Neurosurgeon which I intend to do but as I said not many options here in Ireland and not many Neurosurgeon's either...................... LOL
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Hannie,
I have not heard of any successful "draining" techniques for Tarlov cysts. You may consider consulting with Dr. Feigenbaum in Texas, as he travels to Cyprus to treat patients there through his work with AMIS.
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Hannie,
I have not heard of any successful "draining" techniques for Tarlov cysts. You may consider consulting with Dr. Feigenbaum in Texas, as he travels to Cyprus to treat patients there through his work with AMIS.
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Thank you very much Bridges for your prompt reply to my question.

Any idea as to how I could contact this man ???

I will find out if my insurance will cover me to travel to Cyprus and what after care if any I can get in Ireland after the procedure, I do know they say that if a procedure cannot be done in Ireland that they will cover it within Europe.
LOL not sure if Cyprus is in Europe

I have also seen somewhere that there is a good man in France ??
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Hannie,
The Tarlov Cyst Disease Foundation has contact information of medical providers experienced in treating Tarlov Cysts. Full disclosure: I am now a Board Member of the Tarlov Cyst Disease Foundation.
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Dr. Feigenbaum does phone consults. From Ireland, I think his office number is:

(00) +1-214-351-8450
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Dr. Feigenbaum does phone consults. From Ireland, I think his office number is:

(00) +1-214-351-8450
I forgot to mention, my surgery took about two hours for 8 cysts, L4-S5 and a dorsal plate. I was in the hospital for three days, but could have stayed another day by choice. Pine Creek is a very pleasant private hospital with wonderful nurses and great care. My follow up visit was 8 days after surgery, and I flew back nine days after surgery.

Along with the sacral laminectomy that Dr F does, the wrapping of the cyst, the draining of the cyst is permanent.

With needle aspiration that some other doctors offer, it is temporary. The cysts will refill, sometimes almost immediately.

Whether or not the draining of the cysts will work, depends on the approach as mentioned above and how much of the nerve damage is reparable. Generally, the longer one has had symptoms, the harder it will be for the nerves to recover. Also, nerves take a relatively long time to heal, months to years. Dr F set my expectations at up to two years post operatively to see improvement.

That said, I felt a noticeable difference in some symptoms immediately after surgery and my symptoms were progressively worsening over three and a half years. I'm thinking the immediate improvement was from nerves that were being compressed by the cysts, but not damaged enough they needed much repair to work again. Also post op, some nerves get irritated by the surgery itself, so I was warned some symptoms may return or worsen for a while before improving again. At two weeks after surgery, I'm feeling a bit of that, but can still have an overall improvement in other symptoms.

Looking back, it seems you've been seeking care for a while. I'd highly recommend contacting Dr. Feigenbaum. He was straight with the facts with me and genuinely wants to see his patients improve.
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Thank you all so much for you input...

I have decided to go with the draining of the cyst as I will have to prove to my medical insurance that I have tried what is avaible to me here in Ireland before I can approach them about seeking treatment anywhere else.

Now I have my foot and leg in plaster from the top of my toes to over my knee all due to a bad rupture of my Achilles Tendon

Gosh it never rains but it pours, can only happen to me
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Lots of empathy here. You aren't alone in having such crazy things happen. I can only laugh at mine these days as the tears are long past. Just don't give up hope. Hang in there!

Bear in mind, there is a possibility the cyst may refill immediately without a means to close off the cyst. If you do get relief from drainage, great!

But if you don't, it could just have refilled with more CSF. Also, the cyst itself maybe innervated, the nerve root irritated, or the cyst maybe causing nerve compression and could take time to heal during which time it is likely the cyst will refill. In any case, just remember if drainage doesn't help, the cysts might still be causing your symptoms and can be treated.

Again, Dr Feigenbaum offers phone consults free of charge, but there is a waiting list.

Good luck! And keep us posted.
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Hi, I had mine drained, what a relief first time i could bend down and put socks on in twelve years, but almost as fast it started to refill, took approx 3 days to completely refill then back to normal pain, i know that everyone will respond different, hope you have great results
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Thank you all so much for all your input and patience with me.

It is a week today since I have both of my TC's drained.

I am not in the bad pain I was in from the trapped nerves but it is still there and then I have a few years left for the lower back to repair itself & I guess from the damage done to the nerves.

I am having headaches which I would presume would be very bad only for all the pain meds I am still on.

I guess and would hope NOT... That they are due to the TC's filling again with spinal fluid but I am getting out of bed now in the mornings putting my feet on the floor for the 1st time in years without chronic pain in my back so I guess it is working so far and I find that I am forgetting to take my meds at the proper time's as I dont feel the pain as much any more.

I am praying that all my very bad pain is now over and I can get on with my life to a better pain management.

Nothing prepared me for the headache the minute they began to drain the spinal fluid form the TC's it was terrible and I thought I was going to die but they then rehydrated me quickly, gave me some pain relief and then sedated me for the 4 hours that I had to lie on my back to let the spinal fluid settle.

To be honest I was terrified of the whole procdure because I could find not find anything on my research in TC's and the drainage (apperation) for the whole of Ireland and when asked how many they had done and was told
only 5 in 18 months and the reason mine were being done was because both were so large and trapping nerves on each side.

So lets hope that this will work for me and if not they will drain them for a second time and then said surgery will be the next option which I hope not as they know nothing about TC's in Ireland and I just cannot afford to go anywhere else to get them done and if treatment is avaible in Ireland for me then my health insurance will not pay for me to go to Europe to see this wonderful man Dr Feigenbaum, so that will never be an option for me.
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