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Old 02-26-2009, 12:54 PM #11
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In response to would I do it too? Yes, no question about it. I was actually involved with a similar situation at a bar once. A guy was beating his gf in the parking lot and I went out and pulled her away from him. Blood was everywhere but at the moment I didn't think about me. My adrenaline was pumping big time. The bar was not responsible for me doing that in any way.

To answer: Should McDonald's Corp. be responsible? No, in my opinion because it's not part of the job description and doesn't fall under worker's compensation. It is not required that someone leave their position to come to the aid of a customer unless that aid has something to do with the corporation. Example: food poisoning, cup breaking open, chair breaking, etc. Things that directly relate to the job.

Morally, I think since many McDonald's are independently owned, the owner is doing a great thing offering to help pay. They don't have to but they are and that's wonderful! I think having a benefit and honoring this person is the best way to go.
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Sandy - the individual owner said he'll pay if the corporation won't. I agree that is great of him. If he even has the money, is another story.

The lady you helped out was very lucky you were willing to do so.
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It's funny, I put this same topic on a local site for moms. So far they are all jumping up and down saying McDonald's should pay. Here you guys are all giving me another point of view. It's so funny that I am getting different types of responses depending on which site it is on.
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So what if instead of this guy attacking another customer, he had come in and robbed the place? And the employee was shot in the process? Would they pay for his medical expenses then?

Or what if the employee had contacted the police dept who sent an officer over who pushed the guy out and got shot? Would they pay his bills? OR what if the same employee was shot when the policeman pushed the perp out of the door?

I think the company should be responsible for the well-being of their employees during normal business hours and while inside of the store. If they do catch the guy who shot him, I think he should be held accountable by the court for reimbursing the company but I think the company should be responsible for providing a safe working environment for their employees.
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leggzalot - good questions you brought up! They did catch the guy who did this right away, guess he didn't get too far.
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I agree the guy who started the problem should be sued and held accountable. BUT, since the incident was not part of the employees job description McDonald's in all reality is not responsible. My mom and sister managed a McDonald's and they were always told to call the police if anything like this happened and not to intervene because something like this could happen.

Police tell us all the time not to intervene but we all know how hard that is to do. I wonder if they have this on tape somewhere? The guy is definately a hero for sure. If this happened in my mom and sisters area a benefit to raise money would be in place for sure.
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They do have it on tape - the part of it that happened in the restaurant itself. From what I understand, he was shot either in the doorway or it could have even been outside. So now if it happened in the parking lot, that's even more reason why McDonald's would not want to pay.

There is a difference here of what is legal and what is the right thing to do. Legally they are under no obligation but to do the right thing, should they pay?

This morning I was only thinking about what is right but when I think about it legally and from the corporation's point, it changed my view. I could just imagine how hard it would be to work in insurance and allow my emotions to get involved in these kinds of things.

A company won't change its mind about something like this unless they will loose more by not paying. Customers won't change their habits over something like this so I don't see McDonald's paying.
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Waiting for Sabimax to weigh in on this one...
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Seems a bit hypocritical doesn't it?

The clear plastic container for contributions to The Ronald McDonald house charity, but they can't pull it together for one employee who went above and beyond?
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I would make an exception and eat at Sabimax (Sarah's) McDonald's. I'm guessing it's one of the better run of all of them.
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